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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:54 PM
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Poll question: Has Bill Clinton's statements about Obama changed your "approval" of him?
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 08:59 PM by jenmito
I know he used to have a very high approval rating among Dems. I wonder how your opinion/approval has changed in the last month or so. Please kick once in a while so it doesn't sink so quickly. :)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:57 PM
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1. Other. I'm not a Hillary supporter who did NOT and STILL does not like Bill.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:01 PM
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7. Sorry-I edited the poll.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:35 PM
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18. Okay -- now i can vote!
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:50 PM
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21. Thanks.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:58 PM
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2. Among Obamites: Bill Clinton=bad, Reagan=good
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:58 PM
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5. Reagan=bad, Clinton=okay, concern trolls=worst.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 PM
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29. Where do concern sock puppets fit in?
:shrug:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:01 PM
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8. Fire bad
FIRE BAD.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:02 PM
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10. jackson_dem=wrong and misinformed.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:58 PM
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3. Indefinite pronoun reference. nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:58 PM
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4. kick
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:00 PM
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6. You need a choice for:
I'm not a Hillary supporter who did not and still doesn't approve of Bill.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:01 PM
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9. I added it already. Sorry.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:02 PM
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11. Tks! nt
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:03 PM
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12. This poll divides the Hillary vote (edit: problem fixed, counts not)
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 09:05 PM by lvx35
problem fixed, unfortunately vote counts remain the same....

TWO options (#1 and #3) to divide the vote of Hillary supporters who still approve of Bill so that their vote looks smaller?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:34 PM
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17. What do you mean? I didn't touch #s 1 and 3...
it has nothing to do with dividing the vote of ANYONE. I simply listed all possible options.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:45 PM
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19. its now #1 and #5
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:47 PM
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20. How so? A poster said s/he fit the 5th category so I added it.
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 09:49 PM by jenmito
See post #1 & 6. :shrug:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:34 PM
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34. What I saw in the original
was posts 1-3 started with "I am a Hillary supporter" and 1 and 3 were the same, for Hillary supporters who continued to support Bill. Posts 4-6 where posts 3, 4 & 6 in the current poll, all for "I am not a Hillary supporter".

Not really sayin' you intended it, but that's what I saw.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:40 PM
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35. I had to have separate categories for those categories...
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:43 PM by jenmito
they are all different. I have different combinations since there are people who fit different categories. 3 are for Hillary supporters and 3 are for not Hillary supporters. I never changed my first 4 choices. I just added 2 more by request.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:44 PM
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37. Zen.
:)
Its okay, I'm not really too worried about it. The worst you could be doing is astro-turfing on DU, and look where that got Biden.

Peace.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:45 PM
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38. OK, but I don't know what "astro-turfing" on DU means.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:59 PM
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39. "astro-turfing" is about showing false "grass roots" support.
Its not real grass so its "astro turf" get it?

Its where you artificially create the appearance that somebody has real huge roots support, in hope that group-think will make others jump on the bandwagon. Ron Paul is doing a lot of it, that's why you see its signs everywhere but his numbers are comparitively small. I was just saying that if your poll "divided" the bill support, that's the worst you could be up to, and that's not something I am actually worried about here on DU! :)
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:04 PM
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13. Not taking anymore edited polls, nothing against you but someone just posted one...
And edited it, and my vote showed up as a 180 to what I responded with.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:28 PM
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14. At least one person didn't vote at all until I added the option...
I'm not going to edit it any further.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:28 PM
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15. Thanks Jenmito, voting now.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:30 PM
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16. Thanks. :)
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:54 PM
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22. Bill was and is a liar. I'll never trust him and those that are with him.
But Americans love liars don't they? Americans have no problem with deception in advertising or in the news or the president lying us into a war. Am I the only one who has a problem with it?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:11 PM
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40. That would be a 'no'
Just the people who want live in fantasy enjoy liars.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:55 PM
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23. Sometimes I'm tough on Bill Clinton about his womanizing and...
...the mess he got us all into with what I think of as his addiction ~ but I respect him for his accomplishments as president, and really didn't like hearing Obama elevate Reagan over Clinton in that interview.

What Bill Clinton's behavior does lately is remind us of the lengths he'll go to in order to protect himself. Though I think Hillary would be a very capable president (in spite of a bunch of things I've hammered her on), I'm not sure it would be good for the country to have the Clintons back in the WH.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:00 PM
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24. 89% of dems like and admire Bill the other 11% post here
The only dems who dislike Bill are Obama supporters

I understand why they are so small and petty

He is doing a great job campaigning. Go Bill
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:14 PM
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27. You're the third person who used that 89% number and the third person I'll ask for a link to back it
up. If you look at the results, you'd see you're wrong.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:20 PM
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30. no, you'd see you're wrong per this poll
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/2/15/171656/138
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:24 PM
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31. That was taken in Feb. It's now almost a year later, and as you can clearly see, those numbers
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:25 PM by jenmito
would not be that high now. And to say the other 11%, back in Feb., are Obama supporters, is ridiculous (and not true according to my poll above).
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:30 PM
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32. No, I can't "clearly see" that, without data--why don't you provide a link
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:33 PM by spooky3
to properly conducted, scientific poll data, since you are the one making the assertion about what other people think?

Regardless of hyperbole to make the point, the point the other poster is making is that WJClinton is far more popular among non-DU Democrats than you seem to understand. Neither the other poster nor I made any claims about when the 89% result was found. You asked for a link, and you got it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:33 PM
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33. There is no poll that I could find asking about Bill's approval rating NOW...
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:33 PM by jenmito
As you can see by my non-scientific poll, those numbers from last Feb. don't hold up. I'm a Dem. who used to approve of him but now does not. I'm not a Hillary supporter, but I WAS a Bill supporter.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:11 PM
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25. I just wish they would stop.
Talk about the issues and the individual policies.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:13 PM
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26. No!
If Obama can't stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:18 PM
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28. He never said he couldn't stand the heat which is why he's now responding to the lies. But there
have been more than a couple influential Dems. who are neutral in this race who believe BC is over the line.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:43 PM
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36. Life is funny.
I did not think Jimmy Carter was a good president; I have great respect for him as an ex-president.
I thought Bill Clinton was a good president; I have not thought as highly of him as an ex-president.
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