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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:10 PM
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New Head to Head polls against McCain

http://www.surveyusa.com/electionpolls.aspx

Massachusetts - Clinton beats McCain by 5, Obama loses to McCain by 5 (now that is a problem)

California - Clinton wins by 19, Obama wins by only 6 (Now thats a bit scary) 6 undecided

New Mexico - Both lose by 9

New York - Clinton beats McCain 53 to 40 , Obama beats him 49 to 43 (6 undecided) too close again.

Wisconsin - Clinton loses 49 to 45, Obama loses 46 to 44

Minnesota - Clinton loses 49 to 45 and Obama 49 to 42

Now these polls came out today and I have to say I'm disturbed how close it would be for Obama in California and New York and the fact he would lose Massachussetts.

The fact also that Wisconsin and Minnesota are both losses is troubling too.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:11 PM
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1. McCain is a tough opponent.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:12 PM
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2. Nothing is troubling. They both beat granpa McCain soundly - if votes are counted.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:16 PM
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3. Isn't there a third Dem candidate in the running?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:17 PM by BrklynLiberal
http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/2008/presidential-matchups/john-edwards-vs-john-mccain.html
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:54 PM
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8. yeah, stop acting like the MSM & excluding Edwards!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:20 PM
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4. These numbers FWIW, do not give support to those whe seem CERTAIN
that Hillary is our weakest candidate against McCain. I have long been on record saying otherwise. Polls are flawed snapshots this far out, but at least it is fair to say that a case CAN be made that Hillary would be our strongest candidate against McCain.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:22 PM
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6. looking at that yes

Possibly losing California and New York, thats far too close for comfort and Massachussets. Jesus John Kerry's endorsement really going down well it seems.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:22 PM
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5. Funny poll, 4 pugs and 2 dems..... wasn't there another dem running?

Maybe this is part of the problem.

I gotta tell you, I'm so tired of this shit.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:08 PM
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10. Really annoying, isn't it?
:argh:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:27 PM
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7. EEKS--MN and WI choosing MCCAIN!!
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:07 PM
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9. And this poll from last month had Edwards doing best...
Head to Head against the rethugs.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/10/poll.head.to.head/index.html

Why even post a poll that leaves him out?
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:07 PM
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11. JEDNE much???
Or cite sites that are opposed to a single candidate???Think they have an agenda??? Actual fact is that John Edwards polls best against John McCain...so if you are truly Democratic and concerned, I suggest you find a poll with a three way match-up...
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:09 PM
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12. Obama=Dukakis. He is unelectable
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:10 PM
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13. you think a five point lead in MA is good?
Neither Obama nor Hillary are running well in one of the strongest Dem states at this point. MA goes by better than 60% democratic and both have a long way to go which shows how useless these early polls are.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:11 PM
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14. WRONG!
Not head to head. Where is John?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:18 PM
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15. Hey there sunonmars
Ya left Edwards out. If you watched the debate the other night you might o' seen him...the guy on the right acting like a real, grown-up candidate.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:21 PM
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16. Well they arent polling Edwards so how can i add it in

Lots of surveys have dropped him, i'd like too but they didnt include him.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:22 PM
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19. That's cool.
I'm just so used to Edwards being left out in these things I feel I have to say something.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:22 PM
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17. State-by-state polling is useless until the convention.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:25 PM
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18. Maybe we should nominate Edwards since both HRC and Obama are sucking against McCain
in these polls. You make a good point. Go Edwards!!!
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