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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:27 PM
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Just spit it out.
What exactly is it that you think Obama did re Rezco? There's no evidence of illegality or wrongdoing to date. So what is it you suspect him of doing that's so troubling?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:28 PM
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1. Looks like they all got the memo from Taylor Marsh. NT
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:30 PM
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3. So you can't explain it then?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:03 PM
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10. Explain what? There's nothing there. There's no wrongdoing. NT
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:28 PM
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2. That's the point ...
"Nothing indicts like denial".
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:33 PM
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4. Fuck Rezco. All petty money and influence stories are crap.
All politicians get branded with these nonsense stories because the press likes them, but they mean nothing.

All politicians deal with unsavory people at some point... that's the nature of representative democracy where all those represented are not angels
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:33 PM
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5. He lied about his relationship with him...basically trying to spin it
as just a mistake in taking money from the guy.

The two go way back...Rezko has supported all his campigsn, helped him with the house buy, bundled $200,000 for Obama from his employees...Obama knew just how bad this guy was and he chose to associate him...everyone knew.

Now tell me about "change."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:40 PM
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8. see post below---for the TRAnscript
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:06 PM
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11. he didn't help him with his house buy. nt.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:36 PM
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6. It will be used against him in the GE
you can argue w/ fellow Dems all you want, but the GOP won't care what you think when they start their smear campaign against him.

We don't need candidates with real baggage. If Obama is innocent, then he should wait until the investigation exonerates him and then run for President. But its crazy for him to run while he's under investigation. Period.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:38 PM
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7. here is the Transript: Why did he say his association with Resco was only 5 hours??
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:41 PM by rodeodance

BLITZER: I'm going to go to Suzanne Malveaux in a second, but I just want to give you a chance, Senator Obama, if you want to respond. Senator Clinton made a serious allegation that you worked for a slumlord. And I wonder if you want to respond.

OBAMA: I'm happy to respond. Here's what happened: I was an associate at a law firm that represented a church group that had partnered with this individual to do a project and I did about five hours worth of work on this joint project. That's what she's referring to.

Now, it's fine for her to throw that out, but the larger reason that I think this debate is important is because we do have to trust our leaders and what they say. That is important, because if we can't, then we're not going to be able to mobilize the American people behind bringing about changes in health care reform, bringing about changes in how we're going to put people back to work, changing our trade laws. And consistency matters. Truthfulness during campaigns makes a difference.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:25 PM
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12. Clinton's statement he was working for a "slum lord" when she was on the Wal-Mart board
He said he was organizing unemployed steel workers when she was on the board of Wal-Mart, which he was for part of that period, 1986 to 1992. In 1993, he went into the law firm.

Clinton said he was working for a law firm representing Rezko the slum lord when she was on the board of Wal-Mart.

Obama answered that he did five hours work for his law firm representing a low income housing group that worked with Rezko.

The law firm confirms what Obama said.

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, Obama received $168,000 in campaign contributions from Rezko and his associates after 1995. Obama has denied doing any legal work directly for Rezko or his companies. During Monday night's debate, he said that he had done "about five hours' worth of work" on a joint real estate development project involving Rezko and a Chicago church group.

William Miceli, Obama's supervisor at the law firm, said the firm represented the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., a nonprofit group that redeveloped a run-down property on Chicago's South Side with Rezko. He called Clinton's assertion that Obama represented Rezko in a slum landlord business "categorically untrue."

"He was a very junior lawyer at the time, who was given responsibility for basic due diligence, document review," said Miceli, adding that Obama did what he was told by the firm. According to Miceli, that was the only time Obama worked on a Rezko-related project while at the law firm.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012203513.html?nav=most_emailed





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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:46 PM
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9. Didn't he buy land in the Whitewater development?
just in case :sarcasm:
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:28 PM
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13. Everything he did - and Iam not saying it was in any way illegal - was
definitely the most insidiuos kind of "old kind of politics" and therein lies the rub....

You don't campaign promising to "give us" a new kind of politics" with this in your background.

The house deal, the intern, the "not knowing" about slum conditions

It is as simple as that
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