Hillary's Predecessor, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Called GOP "The Party Of Ideas," Too

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/hillarys_predecessor_daniel_patrick_moynihan_called_gop_party_of_ideas_too.php

This could stir this whole battle up again, but it's noteworthy. Guess who also called the GOP the "party of ideas," in a fashion similar to the way Obama did?

Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who held Hillary's New York Senate seat until she took it over in 2001 with his blessing. Hillary praised Moynihan after his 2003 death as "one of the greatest minds of our time."

Maybe that puts the Rezko deal in a whole new light? :crazy:

Try restraining yourself from attacking anything Obama. Moynihan is considered a great Democratic Senator.

I'm guessing you wrote it.

before quoting Moynihan. I grew up with him as my senator, but reading this opened my eyes into his view of the "underclass". Basically, he blamed poor blacks for being themselves.

:shrug:

or am I missing something?

That's what this is all about.

had his head up his ass. He was a sociologist, with a few course under his belt from the London School of Economics but he was no expert, or even a good armature. Despite this he was treated as an expect in law and economics. His 1981 comment "The Republicans are now the party of ideas" reflects his conservative nature - which does seem part of Obama's makeup.

I wrote him in the early 90's and explained his errors re Social Security - but as he was no economist, he persisted in advocating the destruction of Social Security via private accounts, while pushing the implementation of Nixon's guaranteed income idea that was not passed in 69 because the Dem's in the Senate were told it was not good enough by the base and which could never be passed in any future Congress - a bit like the Dem base last year killing Holt's audits of elections in 08 because it didn't mandate paper only (see the 1973 Moynihan book, The Politics of a Guaranteed Income.)

Do you really not know who D.P. Moynihan was?

Your point is not valid

Rezko in a new light!

Obamites will stop at nothing to attack Hillary and Edwards, even pulling this idiotic 6 degrees bull.

I think Obama is not presidential. This slum lord issue affects the poorest of poor children with no heat and living in squalor. Obama has not even a speck of remorse over these poor children.

YES, the republi-CONS are a "party of ideas". BAD ONES!!!!!

And that's a problem I had with that Obama interview - why he did not add to his observations a single phrase that would have kept him out of trouble here. Yes, in that time frame they could indeed be considered a party of ideas. BAD IDEAS. Why he did not immediately point to those ideas as being bad, or bad for average Americans, or bad for kitchen-table issues, or longterm security or whatever, I don't know.

In my opinion NO self-respecting Democrat should EVER refer to ronald reagan as doing good things, or even what might be inferred or implied as being good things. You go for the subtle negative here, across the board. You don't slam the old bastard outright so you don't completely alienate those independents and "reagan Democrats" who are now disenchanted and wavering and could be rehabilitated. But you DO, or you SHOULD, point out that those ideas were proven to be divisive, ill-conceived, built on false premises, good for only a select, elite, wealthy few (reclaim the term "elite" and make it apply to a negative on THEIR side) in the short term and horrible for EVERYONE in the long run, or my favorite: perhaps well-intentioned but terribly misguided. Obama, unfortunately, did leave it open to interpretation that he was praising reagan, because he never used words or phrases or even vocal inflections to add a negative spin to it, or an extra overlay of negative meaning. He just left it out there as is. So it reasonably could have been interpreted as Obama giving something of a blessing to that, or acknowledging it, or lending it credibility. If he was trying to damn reagan with faint praise, he left out the damn part. And if you're left with faint praise, it still counts as praise.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING NO DEMOCRAT ALIVE SHOULD EVER EVER EVER EVER DO.

I found that most upsetting. Obama should have known better. Big mistake ever to go there in the first place, ESPECIALLY in a season where the other side is damned near lighting incense to reagan and nominating him for sainthood. The LAST thing anybody on our side should do is even offer the slightest whiff that he's onboard with that. So he goes back, after the fact, and corrects the record (or tries to). Too late. Doesn't help. The first impression stands. The damage has been done.