Can we all agree that Hillary lied when she said Obama "liked" Repug ideas and move on?

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Clinton: has said in the last week that he really liked the ideas of the Republicans over the last 10 to 15 years, and we can give you the exact quote. ... They were ideas like privatizing Social Security, like moving back from a balanced budget and a surplus to deficit and debt.

Obama pushed back, saying he had never endorsed such notions:

Clinton: talked about the Republicans having ideas over the last 10 to 15 years.

Obama: I didn't say they were good ones.

Clinton: Well, you can read the context of it.

Obama: Well, I didn't say they were good ones. ...

Clinton: It certainly came across in the way that it was presented...

We can’t speak to how things "came across" to Clinton, but we’ve listened to the entire interview and to our ears, it’s just flatly false that Obama said he "really liked the ideas of the Republicans." Clinton is referring to what Obama told the editorial board of the Reno Gazette-Journal. A video is available on the Internet.

Here’s what Obama actually said in the portion to which Clinton referred:

Obama (Jan. 14, 2008): The Republican approach has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom. Now, you’ve heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they’re being debated among the presidential candidates, it’s all tax cuts. Well, we know, we’ve done that; we’ve tried it. That’s not really going to solve our energy problems, for example.

There’s a difference between praising someone for having ideas and praising the idea itself. Obama is doing the former – and just as clearly not doing the latter. He says the GOP approach has "played itself out," for example.

It’s also false to imply – as Clinton did – that Obama endorsed Republican proposals to set up private Social Security accounts or that he praised deficit spending. We listened to the entire 49-minute interview, and Obama said no such thing.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_slugfest.html

Do you have a link?

Audacity of Hope page 31:

"That Reagan's message found such a receptive audience spoke not only to his skills as a communicator; it also spoke to the failures of liberal government, during a period of economic stagnation, to give middle-class voters any sense that it was fighting for them. For the fact was government at every level had become to cavalier about spending taxpayer money. Too often bureaucracies were oblivious to the cost of their mandates. A lot of liberal rhetoric did seem to value rights and entitlements over duties and responsibilities. Reagan may have exaggerated the sins of the welfare state, and certainly liberals were right to complain that his domestic policies tilted heavily toward elites, with corporate raiders making tidy profits throughout the eighties while unions were busted and the income for the average working stiff flatlined.

Nevertheless, by promising to side with those who worked hard, obeyed the law, cared for their families, loved their country, Reagan offered Americans a sense of common purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster."

Pages 156-157

"The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."

Talk of expanding the pie rather than slicing it, is a DLC-style smokescreen for talking about cutting back on social programs.

about him liking Repug policies. Which is it? :shrug:

the republicans will be laughing all the way to the ballot box

Go away, troll.

So that's rejected on face value.

shit he regrets?

were brought to the table by Obama as part of his efforts to pimp himself to Repugnant and Indie voters. He has done the same with 'that old time religion' for the same purpose.

When he gets called on these things, and he should be called on them, his surrogates cry and whine and accuse another candidate of lying.

The free ride is now officially over. The hate-hillary at any cost gang are now like free range chickens. Feel free to pick them off when they surface.

but we have a bunch of koolaid addicts here that think it doesn't mean shit.

saying Sen. Clinton's comments about mlk were not racial?


and move on???

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WERE racial and did come from the Clinton campaign. Along with hysterial al qaeda comments, hussein robo calls, anti-semitic nonsense, and all the rest.

of Obama's comment in a political campaign. None of the candidates are saints and this is politics where exaggerations and twisting of words is routine.

Hillary did.

I don't think I misunderstood them, but even if I did misunderstand, I didn't lie. Neither did Hillary.

That said, it is time to move on.

nice try! Obama is a appropriately catching heat..for an immensely inappropriate comparison..statement!Let's NOT forget the Attack on Bill when he said it! YES. "Attack!"..

Thanks in advance.

Sorry D_M_C.

He screwed up.

and pissed off some other voters int he process. he seems to have a knack for that with the disparging comments he's made about baby boomers, and the mcclurkin debacle.

parse it all you want, obama's analysis of reagan and republicanism was as incorrect as it was opportunistic. and he got exactly what he deserved.

what's the difference between praising the worst president in modern us history (he was even worse than bush) and saying you liked his policies? not a whole lot. this applies to all reagan revisionists and "admirers."