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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:15 PM
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buzzzzz
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. . . not looking forward to suffering these wardrobe changes on a full-time basis
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:17 PM
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1. ...
:yoiks:
:popcorn:
:hide:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:19 PM
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2. Poor nuckledragger
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:21 PM
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4. moi?
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM
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10. Yeah...
one of them sister-fucking,
cousin-marrying sexist knuckledraggers.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:35 PM
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17. all of that from this criticism of Hillary's attire?
Now, who's the bigger bigot here?
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:48 PM
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22. It is sexist.
Wardrobe changes? Now we know
the men candidates with the white
shirts and grey/blue slacks will
be critiqued on wardrobe changes.
Hell, as long as the men didn't
stink, you would not be able to tell
from one day to the next if they
wore the same clothes. Totally different
for a woman in the publics' eye.
BTW - not a Hillary supporter but
hate sexist attitudes towards her
simply because as a woman, my career
has been in a 'man's field' and I have
dealt with this sexist shit all my working
life. A woman has to be twice as good,
work twice as hard, to get half the credit
and recognition as a man.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:58 PM
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35. light hearted criticism of a bright yellow suit is 'sexist'? What if a man candidate had worn one?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:15 PM by bigtree
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:29 PM
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49. ...
" . . not looking forward to suffering these wardrobe changes on a full-time basis"

Suffering? :eyes:

Clothes should not be the basis
of whether someone is credible or
worthy.

Furthermore, I could care less what
any of them wear, as long as they wear
something.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:33 PM
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51. I never said her clothing was 'the basis of whether someone is credible or worthy'
and, I meant, 'suffering' in the lightest of terms. I pretty much of a slob, myself. I take hits all of the time for my 'hippie' attire. Not much of a fashion maven here.

But, you are correct. Clothing says virtually NOTHING about people, personally.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:50 PM
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53. Truce fellow slobby!
I am the t-shirt, jeans
and flip-flops queen.

:hippie:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:19 PM
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3. Looks like classic Chanel...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 04:29 PM by Juniperx
In a very, very bad color choice!

I had a coral colored Chanel suit in the 70's... with chartreuse lining! And it came with a chartreuse turtleneck! Blech! But it was all the rage... go figure.

I run from designer clothes now... too embarrassingly hideous for my taste... runway material only!

As designer suits go, this one worn by Hillary is actually not too bad... I've seen so much worse lately. Have you been to a professionally dressed office lately? This isn't bad at all.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:23 PM
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5. professionally dressed office lately?
naw. I'm pretty much of a knuckledragger, as the above poster suggested.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM
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8. That was a disgusting thing that poster said...
Oh, the irony! That poster callin you that name shone the light on him/herself, right?

:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:30 PM
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14. could be true
I grew up with ALL of the old chauvinistic influences and quite a few are still with me.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:31 PM
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15. hmmm
interesting :beer:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:24 PM
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6. (pssst Chanel) :)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:28 PM
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11. doh!
Stupid spell check!!! Chanel doesn't register with spell check, but a channel does!

Thanks, Bluebear:)

:hi:

You're a true blue pal!

:hug:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:38 PM
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18. I think she was heading for CA today..
Can't go dressed for winter in the Golden State!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:06 PM
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43. This is true!
And if you think about it, if the only thing people can complain about are her suits and her husband, she's doing a lot better than most!!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:25 PM
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7. I thought you were referring to this:
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM by hedgehog
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:28 PM
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12. too deep
"Mean Girls Grown Up: Adult Women Who Are Still Queen Bees, Middle Bees, and Afraid-to-Bees"
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:27 PM
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9. Did she raid Condi's closet?
Condi seems to have a closetful of them.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:29 PM
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13. Yeah, what is it with woman and their colorful clothing anyway?
:sarcasm:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:32 PM
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16. I've never gotten used to seeing the women in bright outfits among the darks of the male legislators
but, you go ahead and stir it up. I'll admit to my own ignorance. This suit is jarring, to say the least.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:42 PM
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19. poor you!
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:42 PM
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20. YOu mean the boaring , stale ' omg if I see one more black suit I'm gonna puke" legislators?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:49 PM
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23. yup
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 04:50 PM by bigtree
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:50 PM
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24. "I'll admit to my own ignorance." I'd call it predjudice
Ah, but what's in a name.

Asking ME to stir it up is hilarious! :wtf:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM
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27. over wardrobe preferences? Are dress codes predjudice?
That's going too far, I think.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:57 PM
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32. robotic tone "We can only vote for white men in black suits" repeat
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:59 PM
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36. wheee! Kinda of rolling with it
aint ya?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:03 PM
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40. This is the "Primaries" forum. How does your post relate to the primaries?
I have to assume you have a political bent here, otherwise I would have thought this post belongs in the Lounge - no?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:04 PM
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42. yeah, maybe the lounge.
It detracts from all of the 'serious' discussion here, no?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:11 PM
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45. Darn it!
You got me on that one :freak:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:43 PM
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21. I have alerted twice on this thread, Skinner said this wouldn't be tolerated,
I'm waiting to see this thread go poof!?!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:52 PM
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26. criticizing a candidates' wardrobe?
brother. You are pretty sensitive. Lighten up.

A bright yellow suit? What a hoot. Alert away, you.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:55 PM
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30. .........yes you are a sexist see your comments below
. . not looking forward to suffering these wardrobe changes on a full-time basis

I grew up with ALL of the old chauvinistic influences and quite a few are still with me.

I've never gotten used to seeing the women in bright outfits among the darks of the male legislators but, you go ahead and stir it up. I'll admit to my own ignorance. This suit is jarring, to say the least.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:04 PM
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41. not ones like this. Is anyone to be barred from criticizing loud clothing
Are women exempt?

And, I really don't see anything so outrageous in my criticism. I haven't cast aspersions on anything but her clothing here. That's done by women ALL of the time. In fact, it was my wife who came up with the 'queen bee' handle.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:00 PM
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38. Me too.
Alerted twice also. Guess sexism must be hard to spot some times.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:13 PM
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46. EVERY criticism of women isn't sexist. You really make the term look petty
when you apply it to criticisms like this. I don't believe for a moment that the same charges would be leveled, by the same people, if the criticism was of a male candidate in a Bright Yellow outfit.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:21 PM
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47. You are right - legitimate criticism is, well, just criticism.
This is not legitimate.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:26 PM
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48. It would be out of line if I associated my dislike of her clothing choice
with anything substantive about Hillary Clinton. I haven't. I restricted my criticism to her clothing.

Criticizing clothing is certainly 'legitimate'. Associating that criticism with other issues may well not be.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:52 PM
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25. What's the point of this?
PLEASE tell me you're mocking the media's idiotic focus on bullshit issues.

:(
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM
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28. typical SEXISM-
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:57 PM
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33. MY WIFE made the comment to me
I just agreed and posted it. Your sexist meter is funny.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM
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29. just silliness
funny yellow suit. Jeez.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:56 PM
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31. It's not funny... after the media made a joke of Gore's campaign
based on his suit colors... it's not funny at all.

Maybe a :P or a :sarcasm: or something might have helped...
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:08 PM
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44. I thought Gore looked silly
what a hoot. Bill has his own style thing goin' on with that light suit and that orange(?) tie. It doesn't say a thing about them personally, I think, except as a reflection of their taste in clothes. Not very important, I agree, but not out of line for commentary, I believe.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:58 PM
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34. Another sexist comment
:mad:


I think it's a very nice outfit. One of her best.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:00 PM
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37. I like it too, actually.
If I didn't look so bad in yellow, it looks like something I'd like to wear.

:shrug:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:02 PM
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39. bzzzzzz
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:29 PM
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50. MG, did you see the red striped tie Obama wore in the debate? CANDY CANE
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:30 PM by adapa
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:34 PM
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52. sexist!
sheesh.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:52 PM
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54. good for the gander, good for the goose

sometimes the only way people learn how silly they sound is by example
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