HELP, HELP, HELP!! I Live In Florida & I Just Saw An Ad Run By Obama...

What is the DEAL here now?? I think I lost out somewhere, but are the Democrats NOW advertising here?? When did it happen, and WHY?? I think I'm still being told that the delegates don't count!

I'm confused! And is this the correct place to ask this question???

It was a national ad buy, not a "FL" ad buy.

But do you plan on attending HRCs campaign events she's been planning for FL?

else is CHEATING!!

Just thought I'd let you know that. I like him :)

I think the reasoning stinks but it went something like this:

He had paid for a package of advertising BEFORE FL got spanked by the DLC. He tried to pull the ads for FL but the ad firm said they could not do that. Some shit like that. I think it is an action that his campaign should be fined for...but .....?

as all the others are. This is the "same" message you get when you call on your local server when something goes down. UP or DOWN the food chain, depending on your position... certain balls gets passed along according to demand.

JMHO!

I mean, you sound so sure.

Where she's booking places, planning Phone conferences with supporters, etc.

You would't happen to have any list of these supposed events would you? Or are you just pretending that she has a whole schedule lined up but you just mislaid it?

or run ads.

whether it is a "national media buy" or whatever other excuse there is :eyes:...then it is fair game.
I am REALLLLLY trying to wrack my brain and remember but there was another issue that the Obama campaign did that came up with the same excuse--it was something that was "totally out of their hands" and they couldn't understand why everyone was upset about it because "they didn't do it directly".
I will continue to wrack my brain for it. It was something along these same lines.

..there were enough fireworks Monday about this!

question. Just saw a HUGE ad for Obama... not a 10 second bite!!

You did nothing wrong. Obamanites can't stand to have anything come up that might make someone "question" what Obama does, or says. If you have a question, ask it, don't let anyone tell you otherwise! :thumbsup:

It's playing in Florida because Florida is in the national media market. But about the deal not to campaign in Florida. It was made for the first four states, the early states. The last one was South Carolina and the chairman of the SC party didn't have a problem with the ad running before the primary there. The DNC took no position. So if Edwards wants to run national ads that leak into Florida, he can. What I'm not clear on is if the deal itself, banning in-state campaigning in Florida, is still on after the fourth state SC has its primary.

Does that ONLY apply to those who have ENOUGH money to BUY BIG ADS?? And then turn around and say my actual "body" wasn't there?? I'm sorry if I'm coming off like an idiotic Ass-hole, but the reality is and always has been... IT'S ONLY ABOUT MONEY!!

I don't give a Flying F--k!! WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG! I never liked FUDGE very much... but the WORD WORKS!!

(The pledge explicitly allowed taking money from Florida).

for violating primary rules and awarding delegates before Feb. 5.

But they have always been able to fundraise in FL in person.

About the money, I agree with you and can only say we need mandatory public campaign financing. But we don't have it now.

but that's NOT what was behind THIS concept, or whatever one might want to call it, this time out! What I'm seeing at this moment in time is certain candidates, who stood on a certain principle actually RENEGE on that principle, but finding a LOOP-HOLE to slip through!

In my LIFETIME, I don't think public financing will come about! What is even more ridiculous is WHY DO I PUT MYSELF THROUGH THIS??

does NOT make it a Non-ISSUE! Just another example of how dedicated people are in this country!! Okay, we covered THAT... MOVE RIGHT ALONG!

No, Just STOP... if you had a problem with it in the beginning, and there was SUCH "hoopla" about we're going to stand our ground, then to just dismiss this as a NATIONAL BUY is... Oh I have many words I could use to define it and ALL appropriate still I'm weird!!

Obviously my OUTRAGE is meaningless so who even CARES??? You know what? Even here at DU as much as so many holler about issue after issue, they so quickly MOVE ON to the "next" big excitement to quibble over! WE don't even stand our ground! It's just ANOTHER thing we seek to call out against those we disagree with. Kind of like the Invasion Of The Body Snatchers!! See one, POINT HIM/HER OUT and say Awk, Awk, Awk!

I say to all of you who haven't "been here" as this S--t hit the fan, why don't YOU try to walk a MILE IN MY SHOES!!

Even here at a place called THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND... I'm being labeled as being hysterical! I always see in the movies someone say "give me a Scotch & Soda" well if I even KNEW what one tasted like, I find that to be the EASY WAY OUT!!!

Okay, it's just ANOTHER easy way not to FIGHT! And why should I EVER try???

You just never know what is coming in on the thing. ;)

campaign found out--they said contract broken.

Obama fired first salvo---guess its his campaign that needs to show.

From who? Why are the rules different for him?

It was a national cable ad, not a local Florida ad.

but seeking of counsel to make sure they weren't violating the pledge.

So they went to one of the originators of the pledge, and she didn't seem to think it was a problem.

She should know, if she had something to do with the pledge they took.

Obama made a pledge to his fellow democrats.

He asked an unnamed staffer in South Carolina if it would be okay for him to break his promise. He didn't go to his opponents and ask them to be let out of his promise. You know - the folks who made the same promise with him.

"A man's word is his honor." Maybe Obama's mother didn't teach him that but mine taught it to me. And how a person keeps the promises he makes is how I judge them.

and it wasn't a Florida ad, but a national ad running on cable.

It's a national ad on cable. The campaign went and asked one of the originators of the pledge and asked if a national ad was okay, if it violated the pledge. She didn't think so.

Some disagree it seems. But I think they acted in good faith as to whether or not they were violating the pledge.

And yes, IT is cable or MY DISH, CNN & MSNBC... but what DOES THAT have to do with anything??

Listen, to all of you who don't live in Florida, what is going on here is getting too DAMN confusing!! I may get answers here, but there are MANY, MANY, MANY people down here who don't know WHAT THE HELL is going on!! THIS ISN'T funny! Not only have we had to deal with ELECTION FRAUD up the WAZOO, and the Primary situation... now I THOUGHT "no advertisements!"

And even IF some here have heard me say this 100 times before, I LIVE IN THE COUNTY that STILL has NOT found 18,000 plus votes!!

Why would ANYONE wonder why my CYNICISM or many other's CYNICISM is running rampant?? This smells like what it is, and IT IS CONFUSING!!

It's a national buy, not a local insert. Obama's campaign tried to see if it was possible to have Florida sliced out of a national ad run, but it wasn't possible.

Take a deep breath and relax

Basically, the deal is that it's impossible to remove one state from a national advertising package.

and USE our money to do it and then just quietly by and say... Ho-Hum... I knew it was going to be this way anyway!

And sure, I PROBABLY DID, but it's too F--king much that MY money keeps being used to SCREW a country once known for DEMOCRACY!!

I'm not stupid, not am I surprised... I'm just saying I didn't know it was "fair game" now!! If you commit to something... STICK TO IT!! Clinton & Obama have certainly shown their colors and they seem BRIGHT RED!!

Have a lemonade and relax. Its a national advertisement and its gonna be alright.

offensive. Sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, and this has NOTHING to do with whether I support Edwards or not... it has to do with WHAT WAS SAID, what they decided on, and WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!

What's the use?? I'm going to take a very hot bath, followed by a very cold one... It WILL ALL work out, and things will JUST BE FINE!!

TA, TA!!!