The Anybody But Hillary Campaign

Anybody But Hillary

The troublesome thing is, a great majority of these websites are run by dems or liberals or progressives. Although I admit to not taking the time to scroll through all the pages of links. This is obviously not just a DU thing, where some of us just don't feel a Hillary nomination would be good for the country or the party, or that she would even win. It seems to be a... bit.. more widespread than that.

Will these people turn out en masse to vote for Hillary? Will independents? Most certainly, we know there will be NO crossover moderate Republican vote. Or even an "I'm sick of Bush" vote if its Hillary.

Now, before I get accused of hit and run, let me preface this by saying I have to work tonight so won't be around for much longer. I post this only for consideration. Obviously, not many minds are going to be changed in this regard !

All the best!

But I'm liking Obama less by the day.

I have a feeling I'm going to be bummed when the GE comes around.

instead of ourselves. It will all blow away with a fresh
wind. Then we can stomp the real enemy.

Hillary will make you proud.

It's primary season. Her opponents are other Democrats, so of course websites working against her would be supported and created by other Democrats.

This stuff really isn't that hard to figure out, folks.

McLame and Turkey Neck Thompson into the White House....

Its all about keeping the White House RePublican...

Its their only approach....play dirty and use brain washing shit

Not everybody who opposes Hillary is a republican, in fact, most are not it would appear.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=anybody+but+obama&meta=

Damn..........Obama wins this vote by about 34,000 votes.:evilgrin:

That's just plain guessing.

I'm very opposed to nominating Hillary, and I'm not a pub and I'm not friends with any pubs, and I'm not reading their websites and picking up their talking points.

I just don't want her to run.

Sounds like someone bought the GOP talking points.

Go ahead and guess if you want, but don't expect everyone else to agree with your gut feeling.

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I consider myself a progressive but will not support a candidate who supports more outsourcing of jobs and an increase in h1-b visas when there are perfectly qualified U.S. citizens to take those jobs. I've seen way too many people (including family members) adversely impacted by this...

So...the net is...if the Dems want my vote, they will need to put forth a candidate who will support jobs for Americans. PERIOD. Otherwise, I'm just shooting myself in the foot voting for more outsourcing and h1-b job replacements.

(And FWIW, I have spoken to lots of other tech workers who feel the same way.)

They aren't all that dissimilar on policy issues.

It's that we've waited so long for some real change, and it just seems with all her corporate ties, etc., it's just not condusive to the kind of change we are all so damned hungry for. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss- except for the fact that she's a woman, a major plus of course.

Anyone who is expecting some sort of progressive social revolution will be disappointed no matter who wins.

I don't see O. as being any less of a corporate candidate than HRC.

That he will be so damaged by the fight with the Rs that most voters will not take him seriously. The Rs will say that we elected an amateur last time. How is Obama a change? They will point to faux solutions as being the same as ours and claim to have the greater experience. It will be 2000, 2004 and 1988 all over again. (We really never learn.)

In addition I am concerned that he might be another Jimmy Carter, someone with a lot of ideas, but no ability to put them into practice. I know Carter is well-respected now, but in the 1970s he was a national joke. Frankly, the Carter presidency did more to damage the D. party than anything else in the 20th century.

What we really need is someone who can beat them at their own game. Rs may be shitty at governing, but they are excellent electioneers. Ds. need to wake up and understand that campaigns are about marketing and not ideas. We don't like that, but it is true nonetheless. I think HRC has tremendous cross-over potential. The critics say it themselves: she is trying to be a centrist. She can be marketed as someone who knows how to find solutions without looking like some kind of hippie.

And all that shit about a Muslim or an outsider is going to stick. It will appear on car windows in church parking lots and in postal mailboxes. The same thing happened to Kerry in '04. Even if people discount it, it will create enough of an impression that Barack Obama is somehow an outsider. You may think it is silly and it is but the fact that most people don't know anyone named "Barack" let alone "Hussein" is going to weigh on people's minds.

HRC is not the ideal candidate. Most of us know that. That was Biden. We should have nominated him. Too late for that. I like Edwards, but we know he will not be able to compete in the money-intensive Feb. 5 primaries. That leaves us with two choices. One of them is not well liked, but can run a campaign and be able to govern. The other is well liked, but has not demonstrated an ability to run a national campaign or govern.

Clinton does not meet that criterion. Why not worry about that rather than about the people who want a candidate that actually represents their values?

if ever. This country is and has been much more to the center historically.
Remember those famous independents that have grown by leaps and bounds. The
crazy thing is...we're always so shocked when our liberal, progressive candidate
is soundly defeated.

A Pee Pee :rofl:

You get 236,000 hits............with Hillary you get only 202,000 hits.

Much ado about nothing IMHO.