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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:07 PM
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Hillary's outreach to evangelical voters
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:08 PM by TechBear_Seattle


I do have to wonder.... Given the extensiveness of the hate (and I do not use that word lightly) that conservatives have towards Clinton, why does she even bother trying to win them over?

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:10 PM
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1. She needs to fire whoever her advisors are
assuming they did something about the voting fraud, HRC could easily win on a left platform. As you say, she ain't never gonna win over the woman-haters.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:09 PM
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5. Actually, that's easier said than done.
Clinton has a 48% negative opinion rating nationwide. Those are people who are almost certainly not going to vote for her, including a large swath of Dems. Further, her presence would bring the radical right out to the polls in droves. She'd need every possible vote if she wanted to have a chance at winning.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:16 PM
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6. I'm one of those 48%
I am NOT IMPRESSED with what she's offering, or her behavior. If she were offering a true left platform, I'd be pounding pavement for her. Something to consider, yes?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:23 PM
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7. That might change your mind, but not a ton of people.
Specifically, people who consider support for the war a non-starter, people in the middle who don't like her on a personal level, etcetera...

In other words, she's burned a lot of bridges that can't be put back up. Not that I think she's going to make any headway with the evangelicals.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:16 PM
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2. Probably because of all the gibberish about the "all-powerful values voter"... which is a LIE.
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:17 PM by impeachdubya
Actually, if our party really wants to make headway, our folks should appeal to disaffected libertarian-minded republicans and the millions of non-aligned socially libertarian, urban, educated voters. We can do this without abandoning commitments to social safety net issues- (rather, by standing up strong for a Single Payer Health Care system, a livable min. wage, etc. we would win over Greens as well) - because frankly, even the "fiscal republicans" are appalled at how the Jesus wing has taken over the GOP while Bush burned money on shit like Iraq.

Instead, what we should do is stand up strong for PERSONAL freedom- an end to the drug war, the right medical self-determination, palliative care, and a pain-free exit for the terminally ill, unapologetic support for reproductive rights, contraceptive availability, marriage rights for our GLBT citizens.. get government out of peoples' bedrooms and bloodstreams..

The worst thing about our party now is that when millions of people HATE the GOP and their entire agenda, the best our folks can come up with is to cheaply imitate them with pandering, GOP-lite crap.

In essence, screw the so-called "values voters". If telling gay people not to get married or keeping women from taking the pill is more important to them than having health coverage and pulling our country's economy out of the ditch, fuck 'em.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:19 PM
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4. "Values voter" my backside
Here are your "values voters". :rofl:




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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:17 PM
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3. I agree
The candidates should stop playing around with the evangelicals and deal instead with the LGBTs and non-religious. We'd make it easy on them. I don't need pandering, just give me my rights.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:24 PM
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8. She's triangulating her halo.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:27 PM
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9. hilary should have brought her attack dog with..
see what the little bugger calls her then.

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:35 AM
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10. One bump n/t
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