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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:36 PM
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Bill Clinton (the Big Dog) sets the media straight
I love it. Some dipshit asks him a question and he sets her straight. He was absolutely cool and collected and gave her all the reasons that we have all hated the media for years, that they ask about things that do not matter to people's lives and focus on whatever fight they can start among the democrats.
some person I have never heard from the Obama campaign accused him of being like Lee Atwater. Can you imagine anyone asking Bill and Hillary if they are like Lee Atwater?
Seriously, Obama and his scummy campaign can shove their dirty tactics if they think there is any way most democrats are going to forget the way they have behaved.

Go watch the video.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/01/23/bill.clinton.yellin.cnn
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:38 PM
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1. Bill doing what he does best.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:05 PM
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18. Yes. Lying through his teeth.
James Carville had it right - Bill Clinton could sell ice to an Eskimo.

It's not that different from what he's doing now.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:20 PM
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26. And just how was he lying? Aren't you getting tired of that lie?
Always saying it as a matter of fact about anything. Your comment proves it! Just how was it a lie when he accused the press of starting trouble between the party for their amusement and ratings? How the hell was that a lie? I'd like to know? :shrug: But you ignore the facts and keep on lying.Who needs supporters like you? Obama doesn't...neither does our party!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:28 PM
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31. nicely said autie b.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:56 PM
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53. well this might cover it
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:35 PM
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58. What's that got to do with Bill talking to the media and what he said?
Stick to the subject.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:37 PM
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44. He was lying about the media? Do tell us, what was the lie here?
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:42 PM
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2. Bill seems frustrated. And check out CNN's description of the video:


Bill Clinton chastises press 4:52
Bill Clinton repeats criticisms of Sen. Obama, and says the media is focusing too much on his attacks rather than issues.


That's classic Clinton!
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:34 PM
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37. I should care how CNN characterizes the video?
You have got to be kidding. :silly:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:03 PM
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54. But it's factually correct - he repeats his attacks, then complains they are covering attacks.
Classic!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:58 PM
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61. It's true though. And brilliant. He points out how the media ignored the meeting...
...and instead focuses on the attacks. It's reverse psychology at its finest!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:10 PM
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68. Are you supporting the media over our most successful President in 4 decades?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:11 PM by HughMoran
Is that what you are doing?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:43 PM
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3. No doubt about it. He is the best. I like him more now than ever
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:48 PM
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5. I drove an hr through a snow storm with my 8 y old son so we could see him in NH

And my son got to shake Bill's hand.
It was inspiring & unforgetable
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:26 PM
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29. Lucky you! I'd do the same only I'm chicken and I don't have snow tires.
I'd give anything to see Bill Clinton. Do you realize he gets thousands of dollars for giving speeches and you got it for nearly free...plus a handshake to boot. Something your son can remember for a lifetime.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 09:06 PM
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76. my son said 'you know mom, I could be Presdent"
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 09:23 PM by adapa
I was grinning ear to ear-


We don't have many of the cultural plusses here in mid to northern NH so I was determined to take advantage of the opportunity.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:13 PM
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77. That's so touching. Like what Clinton said when he first heard JFK
Look where it got him. Don't let him ever forget. Hope you got lots of pictures!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:29 PM
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32. Glad you had the opportunity.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:44 PM
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4. Wow, nice Clip, Thanks. to quote Bill "...one thing Edwards was right about"
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:35 PM
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40. yes that kudo to Edwards
was nice.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:48 PM
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6. Wonder how long it going to take for him to expose the candidate taking from Republicans
In other words the candidate picked and backed by the right wing.....walk like a duck , look like a duck , sound like a duck ...is a duck get my drift
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:49 PM
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7. I love it!
:-)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:50 PM
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8. Bill lost it and that's how EVERY news outlet is portraying it.
Nice to see the MSM get it right for a change.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:30 PM
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33. Only the ones you watch. Change channels! Or better yet
see for yourself. Watch the video... You decide.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:30 PM
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34. ha ha ha. Big dawg is the winner in this one!
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:36 PM
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41. Cali
you are just full of it, we all know that. Go spew your bile on some other thread.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:54 PM
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60. Bill is playing dirty, so is Hillary.

It's sad to see Bill tumble like this. It can only hurt Hillary's campaign
(which may be a good thing after all).
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:39 PM
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46. I watched it and disagree with you
He was calm and steady throughout. It was obvious he had the facts.

Julie
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:50 PM
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9. Big Dog you're the best and you're right.
This is the only thing the media is interested in...and it seems
that some of us here at DU seem to be focused on it as well.
We say we want to talk about the issues...but flaming and adding
fuel to catfights is ever so much satisfying.

Lee Atwater certainly did a great job of creating a lasting legacy.



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:51 PM
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10. The Big Attack Dog..
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:14 PM
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23. fuck obama...
with those ears..why don't you just fly away...FAR away! hehe
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:17 PM
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25. Fuck the fucked hilary&bil show
Lyin' pieces of shit.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:16 PM
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56. Go crap on somebody else's thread.
:mad:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:28 PM
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57. Oh like the hilarys crap on Obama threads..you
really need to calm the fuck down..but I realize being a hilary you have no control.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:21 PM
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28. Your comment really adds to the debate.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:51 PM
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11. This is why
He'll always be "The Big Dog".

Bravo, President Clinton. Bravo!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:31 PM
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35. BROVO BILL BROVO
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:51 PM
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12. Look! More shitty Rovian Ju-Jitsu from Hillary's supporters!
What do you do when you candidate is running the dirties, most rovian democratic campaign in recent history? Accuse Obama of doing the same thing!


Stay classy Hillbots!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:32 PM
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36. You should look into Stand-Up Comedy
you're a natural.
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:37 PM
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43. poor baby
wanta baba?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:59 PM
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62. If that video doesn't impress you then your blinders are on too tight.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:13 PM
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69. He calmly rebuked the media. Who do you support, our last Democratic President or the media?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:14 PM by HughMoran
Are you calling our best Democratic President in the past 40 years the equivalent of Karl Rove?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:55 PM
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13. Thank you for posting this MollieB
terrific response by the Big Dog. :)
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:38 PM
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45. Thanks Jim
I loved it. It reminds me why he is the political master. Yes he didn't have to stop and talk to reporters, but he had something to say and he got his message out.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:58 PM
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14. wow he was so angry
sheesh I get more angry by 8am than that.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:03 PM
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16. lol nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:26 PM
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30. oh, that is ok, he is a man. anger is allowed
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:34 PM
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39. I know- right?
I wish I looked that mellow when I was angry.
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:39 PM
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47. lol
I get more angry than that when my toast burns.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:00 PM
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64. Hahaha, cute post.
Your avatar: Remember the Dean years? Those were something.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:03 PM
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15. I'd love to see the conversation between
Harpootlian and Delores Heurta or between Harpootlian and Lewis and/or Young.

Bill is right... and his answer was perfect.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:03 PM
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17. Hmmm, see who else Bill admires...
From the Washington Post August 15, 2007:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401722.html

The Clintons recognize the skill Rove has brought to politics and admire his craft, if not his ideology. Just days after the November 2004 election, Bill Clinton pulled Rove aside at the dedication of the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Arkansas. "Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did," Clinton told Rove, according to the book "The Way to Win: Taking the White House in 2008," by John F. Harris and Mark Halperin. "I want to get you down to the library. I want to talk politics with you. You just did an incredible job, and I'd like to really get together with you and I think we could have a great conversation."


Now, I know you said Lee Atwater, but Rove is a protege of Atwater's.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:06 PM
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19. No. I prefer to look for a rebate on the $5,000 we sent to him in 1992 + 1996
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 06:07 PM by GalleryGod
FED MAX= $2,500 for each year....somewhere W.C. Fields is chortling at my wife & I :wtf:



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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:47 PM
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51. clearly you have lost
your better judgment since then. Was it a stroke? :evilgrin:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:09 PM
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20. The "Big BLUE Dog".
The one that triangulated a mildly center-left party into a mildly center-right party.
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:11 PM
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21. wow
Man I miss him. One tough couple those Clintons.
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:13 PM
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22. Corporate Media vs. Bill Clinton on honesty? Jesus, there's a quandry n/t
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:17 PM
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24. They Should Ask Bill Shaheen and Robert Johnson And Bob Kerrey And...
On and on and on and on and on. Planting questions, killing articles, playing the fear card, suggesting Obama is a drug dealer, forwarding smear e-mails, sending out direct mail suggesting Obama is not pro-choice, ad nauseum.

Lee Atwater would be proud of his legacy. We used to complain about GOP tactics, now we are no better. Its like saying the terrorists torture, so we should be able to.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:51 PM
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52. And the "leading Democrats who are upset that bill.."
24. "Leading Democrats to bill clinton"
"Prominent Democrats are upset with the aggressive role that Bill Clinton is playing in the 2008 campaign, a role they believe is inappropriate for a former president and the titular head of the Democratic Party. In recent weeks, Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. Rahm Emanuel, both currently neutral in the Democratic contest, have told their old friend heatedly on the phone that he needs to change his tone and stop attacking Sen. Barack Obama, according to two sources familiar with the conversations who asked for anonymity because of their sensitive nature. Clinton, Kennedy and Emanuel all declined to comment."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/96385

Black leader to Bill Clinton: 'Chill' on ObamaStory Highlights
Bill Clinton increasingly attacking Barack Obama on campaign trail

Obama says former president is distorting his record

Rep. Jim Clyburn says Bill Clinton should tone down rhetoric on behalf of wife

South Carolina Democrats hold crucial primary Saturday

"House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, one of the most powerful African-Americans in Congress, weighed in on the feud Monday, saying it was time for Bill Clinton to watch his words.

Bill Clinton has delivered full-throated attacks on Obama in recent days, accusing him of overstating his opposition to the war in Ircomplaining about Obama's union supporters in the Nevada caucuses last weekend and blasting his relatively mild praise for Republican icon Ronald Reagan during a Las Vegas newspaper interview."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/22/clyburn-to-bil...
"We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible.” Barack Obama


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4165903

And we can't forget these mentionables..

Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-23-08 01:09 AM
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I have seen a narrative begin to emerge tonight: The Clinton's are hurting the party
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 01:13 AM by Quixote1818
Tom Dashiell:

Daschle faults Bill Clinton's criticisms

"This is the same kind of tactic that Washington uses quite frequently," Daschle said. "I think it destroys the party. Ultimately, it divides us."

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/177125,daschle-...

Maureen Dowd:

The Clinton's — or “the 2-headed monster,” as The New York Post dubbed the tag team that clawed out wins in New Hampshire and Nevada — always go where they need to go, no matter the collateral damage. Even if the damage is to themselves and their party.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/opinion/23dowd.html?_...

Mike Papantonio:

http://www.goleft.tv/viewer.asp?v=928&c=1

DUers: Hillary's strategy: Either I get the nom, or we ALL go down in flames

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...







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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:20 PM
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27. The Clintons have been smeared for the last 16 years
Nobody in the media published any complaints when the Clintons were the victims.
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:45 PM
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50. you are right
The whining from the media (otherwise known as Obama campaign central) about Clinton is getting hysterical. I am thinking of starting a blog just to make fun of the media.
Barnicle can say Hillary reminds him of his first wife standing outside of court. But I wonder if he knows how much he reminds me of everyone's drunken uncle Bill who has been married three time, has lousy breath and is known to grab his nieces asses during family get togethers?
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:34 PM
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38. thanks for posting this
This was great.
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MollieBradford Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:41 PM
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48. You are welcome
I love watching Bill Clinton speak. He is so much fun.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:44 PM
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49. yes.. thanks. I am reminded I should thank posters
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:37 PM
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42. Bravo! Well done.
A little reminder of why he's often called The Big Dog.

:toast:

Julie
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:11 PM
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55. It's incredible how the media
expects everybody to believe without question their assinine sophistry and woe to the person who has the balls to point out their hypocrisy.

Big Dawg knows how to stand up to the media's nonsense and I love him for it because he's the only Democrat I know of who has a SPINE!
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DallasCowboy Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:42 PM
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59. Maureen Dowd B----CH slaps the Clintonista today
Speaking of media...

Feminist and New York Times Columnist delivered the most accurate assessment of Hillary to dat in the following line: "It’s odd that the first woman with a shot at becoming president is so openly dependent on her husband to drag her over the finish line."

Bill needs to learn that Presidencies, like women, are not something of which he is allowed to have an infinite amount.

Read her whole article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/opinion/23dowd.html?em&ex=1201237200&en=3dcf15682936eacb&ei=5087%0A
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:04 PM
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66. If Dowd is breathing,
she's spewing hate about the Clintons and other Dems. She has zero credibility.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:14 PM
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70. True there.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:35 PM
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79. More Dowdy ... a feminist??
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:00 PM
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63. Good for him...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:05 PM by polichick
I saw the clip ~ this IS what the media "lives for."
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:01 PM
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65. Here is a transcript of some of that.......:
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:03 PM by suston96
Bill Clinton Bitches Out The Media

23 Jan 2008 05:18 pm

Excuse the French, but that's the only word that came to mind when reading a transcript of Bill Clinton responding to a shouted question from Jessica Yellin in South Carolina. I await the video. (Context: ex-SC GOP chair Dick Harpootlian, an Obama supporter, likened Clinton to Lee Atwater.)

"I never heard a word of public complaint when Mr. Obama said Hillary was not truthful, no character, was poll-driven. He had more pollsters than she did.

When he put out a hit job on me at the same time he called her the senator from Punjab, I never said a word. And I don't care about it today. I'm not upset about it.

The only thing I pointed out was that there was substantially no difference in her record and his on Iraq, and that he had said in 2004 there was no difference between his position and President Bush. And he said that was somehow dishonest, but he never answers how it's not accurate. So this is crazy.
This rhetoric is getting a little carried away here. And let me remind you, my ultimate answer is this -- there are still two people around who marched with Martin Luther King and risked their lives, John Lewis and Reverend Andrew Young. They both said that Hillary was right and the people who attacked her were wrong, and that she did not play the race card, but they did.

So I don't have to defend myself from Dick Harpootlian. I will just refer you to John Lewis and Andrew Young. And let him go get in an argument with them about it.

Let him go get in an argument with Dolores Huerta, one of the founders of Farm Workers, against what happened in Nevada.

There is a fact here -- this is almost like once you accuse somebody of racism or bigotry, or something, the facts become irrelevant. There are facts here.

And the final thing I would like to say is, you're asking me about this, and you sat through this whole meeting. Not one single, solitary soul asked about any of this. And they never do.

They are feeding you this because they know this is what you want to cover. This is what you live for.
But this hurts the people of South Carolina, because the people of South Carolina are coming to these meetings and asking questions about what they care about. And what they care about is not going to be in the news coverage tonight because you don't care about it.

What you care about is this. And the Obama people know that. So they just spin you up on this and you happily go along. The people don't care about this. They never ask about it. And you are determined to take this election away from them. And that's not right. That is not right. This election ought to belong to those people who are out here asking questions about their lives.


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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:17 PM
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72. "Bill Clinton Bitches Out The Media"
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:18 PM by HughMoran
WHAAWHAAAWHHAAAATT????

Bill Clinton "Bitches" out the Media?

Who came up with that headline, Rush Limbaugh?

Jesus Fucking Christ, how can you post something with such a filthy disingenuous headline?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:09 PM
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67. That was an excellent and calm rebuke of the media
Amazing to see people on DU supporting the media over our most successful President in 4 decades.

I take that back, it's not amazing, it's stunning and disgraceful.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:16 PM
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71. What political cartoonist Tony Auth thinks of Bill's contribution to Hillary's campaign...
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Omega3 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:22 PM
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73. I agree with Bill
the media only wants ratings, they're trying to drum anything they can for ratings, I'm glad he called them out for once, the MSM is rediculous and ought to be ashamed of itself. Just compare the American media with the British media and you'll see why I don't get most of my news from the US.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:30 PM
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74. Oh come on Baracks getting equal and greater attacks from camp Hillary.He's doing well considering.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 PM
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75. Well, the last comment he makes is quite telling:"That's one thing John Edwards was right about...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 08:35 PM by Emit
during the debate" Clinton says to the reporter(s), "You don't care about what your own people care about. They care about what happens to the American people. That's one thing John Edwards was right about during the debate."

This confirms, IMO, that Edwards has been driving the debate for some time -- certainly back to the NH debate. Without Edwards brining the American people into the fray between Obama and Clinton, I doubt seriously that we would even be hearing what the "American people care about" from either Clinton or Obama. It would just be more "He said" "She said" bickering between Obama and the Clintons.

edit typo
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:18 PM
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78. Big Dog is Awesome!
Wish he could run again.
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