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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:53 AM
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Again people are dancing on Hillary's grave thinking she'll place 3rd in SC
Not to throw cold water on these "polls" but remember in Nevada there was a poll a few days before the caucus that had Edwards only a few points behind Clinton. He ended up with less than 4%.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:54 AM
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1. Having seen her campaign in action, it wouldn't surprise me if she wins it.
And I don't mean that in a good way. :(
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:10 AM
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12. If she won it Obama would be done.
I don't see that happening, however. I expect the race to go on quite awhile with the delegate count going up and up and up until we have a nice brokered convention that will tear the party apart.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:45 AM
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19. Edwards needs to bow out
at this point he's in the way and nothing more than a spoiler
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:02 AM
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20. Oh, reeeeeeeally!
:eyes:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:17 AM
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25. He is in the way of Hillary you mean.
Yeah typical Clintonite behavior, you want to kneecap whoever is in the way.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:44 AM
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18. You can see Obamas campaign in
liberal blogs. The barrage of smears is unbelievable. The guy is f*king Satan.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:54 AM
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2. Hillary was supposed to win big in NV.
She only won by 6%, and Obama got more delegates anyway. Ain't that beautiful, dear Herman?
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 AM
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5. all this does is lower expectaions for Hillary even lower than they already were
now second place is a victory, it's kind of funny how devalued this south carolina primary will be.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:59 AM
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7. "it's kind of funny how devalued this south carolina primary will be."
Considering she stopped campaigning there, I'd say that's exactly her intent.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 AM
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26. If she comes in 3rd, the SC primary will be HUGE.
Bill Clinton will be seen as a failure of a surrogate.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:00 AM
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8. That's what you and your girl wish.
She won't be able to diminish the whooping she'll get next Saturday. :)
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:02 AM
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9. i kind of feel sorry for you
You are a true believer. It's going to be hard for you when your guy loses the nom. I hope you are prepared.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:11 AM
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13. No need to feel sorry.
I support Obama. If I win, I'll be here celebrating. If he loses, I'll be here rooting for the Democratic nominee.

Let's hope your premise is wrong, though... :)
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:25 AM
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16. only 6 %? 6 % is alot
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:55 AM
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3. The last two polls in NV showed Edwards with 14% and 12%. In a caucus system, Edwards would get 4%.
South Carolina is a primary for one thing. The other thing is that Edwards above 20% there on Wednesday only.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:05 AM
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22. Well, actually Zogby showed him with 6 percent.
Zogby pretty much nailed Nevada actually.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:56 AM
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4. Wasn't Hillary leading by like 20 points in Nevada? And in New Hampshire?
She does have a penchant for the collapse.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:06 AM
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29. She lead New Hampshire by 13 a day or two before the primary and blew it
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 06:07 AM by jackson_dem
Oh, oops. That wasn't her chokejob...
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 AM
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6. She could get third --
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 AM by smalll
And Obama has to win by at LEAST 10% over her. Anything less will be an expectations victory for Hillary.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:03 AM
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10. hillary's support isn't what's collapsing though
Obama lost 3 points in one day. If this trend continues, his win may only be in the single digits or it'll be a 3 way muddle.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:13 AM
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14. I know you're smarter than to extrapolate forward based on one day's fluctuation within the MOE.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:28 AM
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27. It would be better if Obama doesn't win only due to a huge disparity in the
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:28 AM by dkf
Black vote. Then everyone will say that SC was solely due to race which would not be good for the country.

I would be happier if he won with more male votes and a more racially diverse mix than if he whomps by 30%.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:08 AM
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11. Hermie, will you be on DU when your gal wins or loses? Will we have
to endure you? Just askin'.
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:14 AM
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15. I'll always be around
But if Hillary doesn't win the nomination, I'm sure I'll be less enthused and will post less. Obama will get my vote and nothing more. But I'm a democrat and I support the nominee even if I don't like them. There is no alternative as far as I'm concerned.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:31 AM
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17. I really would expect Edwards to win SC, Obama second, and HC third
It's not the end of the world or the campaign to lose SC. They are going to vote Republican in the GE anyway.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:04 AM
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21. You must have missed all the posts today about how Hillary has the nomination wrapped up
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:05 AM by book_worm
and Obama can't win anywhere after SC. You didn't show any outrage at those suggestions. The pressure must be getting to you because this is your second post on basically the same topic.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:07 AM
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23. *dances*
nt
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:13 AM
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24. I wouldn't say I'm dancing on her grave.
The new polls showing Edwards ahead does give people something to talk about. Doing a little predicting.

Others may be dancing on graves, I'm just having fun.


and remember that NV was a caucus, so if John wasn't viable at a caucus site, supporters may move to their second choice. And that John is a native of SC. He'll do better there than NV.
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:00 AM
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28. Not DANCING
JUST WISHING
JUST HOPING
JUST PRAYING
:popcorn:
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