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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:42 PM
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So My Cousin-A Lifelong Democrat
from NJ, just told me that he might consider voting for JOHN MCCAIN if our nominee is Hillary Clinton!!!!....wow
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:42 PM
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1. Why do I get suspicious every time I read "lifetime democrat"? Kinda like "compassionate conservativ
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 PM by robbedvoter
it's always a prelude for BS!
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:46 PM
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5. because
you're probably a Hillary Clinton supporter who is in denial to the fact that a LOT of LIFELONG DEMOCRATS-like me, and my cousin have a strong dislike for your candidate and the Rovian tactics that are being employed in this quest for power by the Clintons-note the plural..
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 PM
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2. He's
definately not alone. I've heard that from several D friends over the past week or so.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 PM
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3. Well my second cousins uncles brother-in-law...
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 PM by Missy M
a life long Democrat, told me he might consider voting for Romney if Obama is our nominee.;)
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 PM
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4. My buddy Aaron said the same thing =/
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:49 PM
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6. Apparently even lifelong Democrats can be extraordinarily stupid
I am not impressed by threats like this.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:56 PM
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7. It was no threat
it was a statement of truth-deny it all you want Clinton supporters but it is what it is-oh yea, truth isn't too important to this quest for power by the Clintons...I used to be a big Bill and Hillary Clinton fan-voted for him twice and defended HRC against the likes of Rush Limbaugh-right up until the moment she threw John Kerry under the bus
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:15 PM
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13. "Deny all you want Clinton supporters"
Yes, this is the accusation I get every time, though I've made it clear on many threads that I am not a Clinton supporter. (Don't worry; I get the same accusations in reverse from Clinton supporters regarding Obama.)

Democrats who won't vote for the nominee, regardless of who that ends up being, are throwing the entire country under the bus, and saying that they won't during the primaries is nothing less than a threat: vote my way or I'll vote Republican. Really? Have a good time with that.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:00 PM
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8. never underestimate just how much that woman is hated
by liberals and conservatives alike.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:09 PM
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9. I really used to love her policypunk
I even outed Rush Limbaugh here on DU as a junkie a few years ago BEFORE the story broke nationally. This was after getting finally fed up with his lies and nasty talk about HRC on a daily basis...
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:17 PM
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17. Yep.
She's a uniter.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:09 PM
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10. My mother will also vote for McCain...
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 02:45 PM by Nedsdag
if Hillary is the nominee.

This is an African American woman who has voted Democrat all her life. She's holding out for Michael Bloomberg.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:14 PM
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11. I've got the reverse....
...a friend from Connecticut - Repub - wants McCain. If McCain is not on the ballot he would vote for Obama.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:14 PM
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12. Problem is that this phenomenon
has existed since there was a whiff of Hillary running for president in the air, and the rest of the Democratic leadership chose to ignore the massive outcry, by other Democrats, against her nomination.

Instead of putting forth the most viable candidacy, we play power games.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:15 PM
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14. Take it for what it's worth
She polls at only 70% approval rating with dems. That is not a good thing.

zalinda
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:16 PM
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15. My father, a lifelong Republican, will vote for either HRC or Edwards
And, no, it's not a race thing.

He won't vore Republican for President this time around.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:17 PM
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16. She must like Republicans a hell of a lot more than most other Lifelong Demcorats.
Sickening.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:25 PM
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18. Many people still see McCain as a moderate and a maverick
I know this means they have likely not looked in depth as he is pretty conservative on many issues and says we could be in Iraq for 100 years!

This comes from decades of great press. Where every transgression is quickly forgiven and he is awarded accolades, like being a straight talker, which causes him to be seen as honest and non-corrupt. The fact that the far right attacks him helps him. In a general election the fact that he can be likable and can point to McCain/Feingold, his rational work on immigration, and the fact that he has the strongest RECORD on the environment of everyone running - makes him look like he is not so bad.

I have heard many people say the same thing about McCain, without mentioning the Democratic candidates. Few realize that McCain had he won in 2000, might have been every bit as eager to go to war as Bush.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 PM
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21. This is exactly true...n/t
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:12 PM
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19. .
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:13 PM by Magic Rat
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:17 PM
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20. I have heard this from many people...
It's not as uncommon as you might think.

This sentiment seems particularly strong in the Midwest.

Also interesting is that I know several lifelong Republicans who say they would vote for Obama.

It's going to be an odd election, that's for sure.
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