Post Debate: Edwards now taking infinite black votes from Obama in SC

The debate helped Edwards.

In tracking polling, pre-debate Edwards had 0% black support in SC. After the debate he is pulling 5% of the black vote in SC, an increase of INFINITY PERCENT.

Seriously, though... in post-debate tracking Edwards added 5% back vote, Hillary's black vote number went up 2% and Obama's dropped 9%.

I assumed the debate would demolish Hillary's remaining black support in SC, but I may have underestimated the sophistication/complexity of voters. Any South Carolinian of color who wasn't supporting Barack before the debate probably had resistance to him for whatever reason. A black voter who feared he would be jumped all-over by the Republicans would have had her view reinforced by the slug-fest, for instance. And there is not telling just how vile the name Ronald Reagan is among black voters old enough to remeber the recession of 1982. (The worst down-turn since the depression) I would guess there is a generational divide in the black community just like there is everywhere else, and it is simplistic to view the black vote as a monolith.

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Reuters/Zogby Poll: Obama's Lead Slips in South Carolina

Sen. Barack Obama's lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in South Carolina has shrunk by four points overall and by nine points among black voters, during the last 24 hours of polling, but he retains a sizable edge, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby survey shows.

Obama in in front with 39% support from likely Democratic voters, followed by Clinton at 24% and John Edwards at 19%.

Key finding: "Obama still has a healthy lead among African American voters, but lost almost nine points since yesterday, dropping from 65% to 56% support among that group. Edwards, who registered no support from black voters the day before, picked up five points and Clinton added about two points to reach 18% of black support."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/01/24/reuterszogby_poll_obamas_lead_slips_in_south_carolina.html

what it takes to be President.

been discussed on many threads - I haven't been reading all of them - I despise the fights when our kids are suffering - in the widest range of suffering possible. From uninsured, hungry, kids to our young kids who have to fight a lie-war (named a war for the purpose of getting our kids as soldiers, but not a war - a campaign by a relative few for a few.

Anyway, why not more votes for Edwards in SC?

I wanted to say that before the swift boats arrive.

The more at-risk the voter (socially, medically, economically), the more trust matters. The stakes are higher

Barack is an exciting black politician, and a trail-blazer. Hillary is a beloved trusted name among black voters.

Despite his focus on economic justice, it is unrealistic to expect Edwards to get much black support because there are two tremendously appealing candidates dividing that vote.

The problem is not him or his record. They aren't anti-Edwards but pro-Obama with Hillary getting about 15-20%. If Obama weren't running he would be getting a big share of the black vote, although he would lose it to Hillary. In any other year without Obama and Hillary Edwards would be easily winning the black vote in South Carolina, as he proved in 2004.

from Clinton. :shrug:

Here is what the link indicates:

Reuters/Zogby Poll: Obama's Lead Slips in South Carolina

Sen. Barack Obama's lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in South Carolina has shrunk by four points overall and by nine points among black voters, during the last 24 hours of polling, but he retains a sizable edge, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby survey shows.

Obama in in front with 39% support from likely Democratic voters, followed by Clinton at 24% and John Edwards at 19%.

Key finding: "Obama still has a healthy lead among African American voters, but lost almost nine points since yesterday, dropping from 65% to 56% support among that group. Edwards, who registered no support from black voters the day before, picked up five points and Clinton added about two points to reach 18% of black support."

A new Rasmussen poll has Obama at 43%, Clinton at 28% and Edwards at 17%.

yada, yada...

I just read that Edwards pulled more votes from Clinton than Obama, that includes men, women, white, black, hispanic, ... Let's quit helping the media divide our party on race/gender PLEASE?

:shrug:

praised Edwards for his struggle for economic justice.