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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:45 PM
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Do Ron Paul supporters know about the newsletter?


Supporters cheer for Republican presidential hopeful Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, as he campaigns in Kenner, La., Monday, Jan. 21, 2008.


I see this picture (albeit in Lousiana and with Ron Paul's prasing of David Duke so there could be some connection) and I wonder do these people actually know who they are supporting? What he has published under his name?

The same sort of thing could be said of any candidate and their record at least to some degree but with Ron Paul (you have to say his entire name) we are talking about racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, pro rightwing militia hate speech.

Do you think they know about this and support him anyway? Is there some way they have avoided it even now?



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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:47 PM
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1. RuPaul
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:58 PM
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2. Some people are one-issue voters.
To some, it would seem that his anti-war stance overrides all.

Why they don't support Dennis Kucinich instead is beyond my comprehension. Similar war stance, plus progressive stances on the issues and without Paul's anti-social program rhetoric.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:58 PM
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3. I was informed on here the other day that this is all a lie and a myth
Paul is NOT racist!

:eyes:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:03 PM
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6. Must have been one of his "admirers".
They don't "support" Ron Paul. They "admire" him.

Uh, huh.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:59 PM
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4. No... I get the impression many in the electorate lock onto one pet issue
and just ignore or pretend the rest doesn't exist.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:14 PM
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9. So he is anti-war but a safe kind of anti-war the Republican kind
not like them hairy radicals who told them what was going to happen

I see.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:18 PM
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12. Honestly the supporters I've talked to are more locked onto closing The Fed.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:22 PM by redqueen
They weren't so much anti-war as anti-Fed. And the only reason they didn't like *this* war was it's too expensive for the US... not enough allies sharing the cost... that type of thing.

:shrug:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:19 PM
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14. This is the correct answer.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:02 PM
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5. it was ghostwritten and even though he didnt write he took responsibility for it and apologized
most politicians would deny, deny, deny....

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:12 PM
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8. No he didn't
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:29 PM by underpants
First off his first excuse was that it was ghostwritten. Did he every identify the author?

THEN he claimed it was taken out of context

NOW he says that he doesn't agree with it (but published it for 12 years?) and takes responsibility for it without actually taking any responsibility

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:03 PM
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7. Interesting you should ask-
When I was in Nevada for the caucus I spoke with many RP supporters who had no idea. You should have seen them when I brought it up. It sent a few of them running off to higher-ups for clarification. It was really funny.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:14 PM
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10. That's funny
He... (panting, out of breath) he said that our Ron Paul is a racist, homphobic.....
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:19 PM
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13. You should have seen them-
Running back into the Great Basin Brewing Co. for talking points. More than a few of them walked away scratching their heads.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:17 PM
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11. yes, they do
but he told them he didn't write it, so they believe him. He says he isn't a racist - therefore he is not. This is part of the conspiracy to destroy his candidacy. They told me so.

The Paullowers aren't big on critical thinking.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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15. "paulunteers" on the "dailypaul"
:rofl:

Two websites I have run across while doing research on this.

WOW :wow: it is a freakin' cult
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:32 PM
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16. David Duke got a lot of votes in Lousiana.
Ron Paul's newsletter may actually be a selling point with a big segment of Louisiana Repubs. Hell, didn't Duke more-or-less endorse him?
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:02 PM
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17. RON PAUL........BRAINS.......RON PAUL.........BRAINS
The Zombie Ron Paul Revolution cares little for his racism, misogyny, homophobia and general batshit lunacy. They believe that he will give them a ride on the Hale-Bopp to Utopialand, where they don't have to deal with the darkies anyway.


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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:56 PM
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18. Ron Paul represents ideas
Smaller government. No more imperialism. More economic responsibility. Protection of civil rights. Stopping the war on drugs.

Paul may be right on "just one issue", or "just a few issues". The problem is, he's MORE right than anybody else running on those issues, and that includes the democrats. Nobody is more outspoken against the war and why we should be against it. Nobody is more right about the protection of our civil liberties. And no one is more right about the war on drugs. As wrong as he is on other issues, these issues are the big ones for most of his supporters, and ones that don't find alternatives among the other candidates still in the race.

When the average Paul supporter sees the field of candidates, what do the see? A bunch of spineless politicians who will say anything to get elected. They see the battle between one rich, fake Republican, one crazy warmongering Republican, one Democrat who says the right things but whose actions tell another story entirely, and another Democrat who is a lightweight. In their minds, the only option other than supporting Paul is to fade back into non-involvement. So they accept that the racism is just a product of some of his more extreme, libertarian followers and not a reflection on his personal views.

I, for one, hope he stays in the election and even enters the GE as an independent. He won't be elected, but he will help keep focus on those issues that will, otherwise, be brushed under the rug by the major candidates.
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