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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:50 AM
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Hillary is confronted with her Rezko picture and claims "I don't know the man." (VIDEO)
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 08:54 AM by jefferson_dem
At the Today Show site - http://today.msnbc.msn.com/


Click on the link under this picture and cue to about the 4:15 mark.


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:56 AM
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1. "I did not have relations with that man, Mr. Rezko."
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:22 AM
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24. Why do you care who anyone has relations with if it is adult/consensual?
Puzzling, that.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. I just find it amusing that Hillary tossed his name out there at Obama.
She called him a slum-lord. Then she's smiling beside him. I am curious to see where this goes.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. I don't understand what your post has to do with the question I asked.
amen
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. I don't care about anyone's consensual relations.
Things that do interest me are financial connections and patterns of distortions.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:49 AM
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47. So you are concerned with Obama's financial connections with Rezko?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 AM
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49. I am, and I hope the air gets cleared.
For all involved.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:57 AM
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58. Me too.
:hi:
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #24
60. Adultery is immoral n/t
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:24 AM
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26. ooops
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:25 AM by Maribelle

lol
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:02 AM
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64. "Obama has given to charities $85,000 in Rezko-linked campaign contributions,"
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:03 AM by MethuenProgressive
"Obama has given to charities $85,000 in Rezko-linked campaign contributions, including $40,035 last weekend following a published report suggesting that Rezko funneled a $10,000 donation to Obama through a business associate."
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/by_frank_james_in_monday.html

Now, there's 'oops' for ya! :hi:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 AM
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65. Barack's hometown newspaper: "Obama-Rezko ties again at issue"
more 'oops!'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-rezko-clinton-080122,0,5430503.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout


Beyond the heated sound bites is a story of a more complex relationship that long boosted Obama's political fortunes but now could prove a campaign liability.

For years after Rezko befriended Obama in the early 1990s, he helped bankroll the politician's campaigns. Then, after Obama's election to the U.S. Senate, Rezko engaged him in private financial deals to improve their adjoining South Side properties. Those arrangements became a source of lingering controversy after the Tribune first reported them in November 2006.

Now Rezko's federal corruption trial is scheduled to begin Feb. 25. As Obama stumps for votes, coverage of the high-profile proceedings could bring fresh, unwelcome reminders for Obama of Rezko's influence in the same Illinois political world that propelled the senator to a serious run at the presidency.

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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:56 AM
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2. This is just the beginning of this
They will find out that he gave money to the Clintons

bwahahahahahaha
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:57 AM
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3. Yes looks like your typical fundraising pic. . .
. . .and I would not be surprised to see Tony's money in Clinton's pockets.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:58 AM
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5. It's not illegal to give money
and since donations are public, I imagine Obama or someone his camp might've checked the records before today.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. This release was timed
Expect more in the next few days to weeks.

Hillary started it and others will finish it.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:05 AM
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13. Stones, glass houses bad mix ...
I just hope Sen. Obama will go on offense. Up until now it's appeared as though he'd brought a knife to a gun fight.

If Billary wants to roll around in the mud, fine. I can guarantee there is much more dirt in the Clintons' camp than Sen. Obama's (perhaps 2 on 1 wasn't such a great idea after all, hmmm?).
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #13
34. Go on offense? Against whom? He simply needs to come clean.
Time for Obama to come clean


To dismiss Rezko as 'somebody who I knew' just isn't going to cut it

January 24, 2008
BY MARK BROWN Sun-Times Columnist


Barack Obama just keeps bobbling the Tony Rezko hot potato, and if he doesn't get a handle on it soon, his campaign for the presidency is going to be badly burned.



http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/757286,CST-NWS-brown24.article
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:50 AM
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48. How many Clinton fundraisers have fled the US?
Seriously now (John Hsu, Charlie Trie, Mark Rich, ad nauseum)?

Given the need to raise $$$ for campaigns and the earn money when not in elected office, there's always the possibility of getting involved with unsavory characters. 30 years of running for Governor, President, & Senator have certainly created far more "exposure" for the Clintons.

Trust me, this is a path that Billary should NOT pursue. It will hurt the Clintons far more than Senator Obama.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #48
84. Don't forget Peter Paul,
also, the pardons given to friends of Hillary's brothers.

Two can play this game.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #48
87. Trust me, trying to bash Hillary will not work with republicans if Obama does not come clean on this
In fact, they would probably laugh your rear end off the planet if you tried to pull this.

Your response merely proves how un-presidential Obama is.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #34
62. Rezko slept in the Lincoln bed room!!! Breaking....
and it could'nt have been as Obama's guest LOL
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #13
53. Obama has been on an intimate level with Rezko for 20 years,
and that is not bad, but Clinton has a photo-op in the 90s with Rezko and that is bad? If it is bad to have a photo taken with this guy, like Clinton did, how bad is it to take money from him and be a business associate with him, like Obama did for twenty years?


:silly:
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:54 AM
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85. Speaking About Hillary Clinton's 35 Years of Experience









"We like your president very much. We would like to see him reelect (sic). I will give you 300,000 U.S. dollars. You can give it to the president and the Democrat Party." - Gen. Ji Shengde, then the head of Chinese military intelligence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Hsu
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #85
86. Ouch!....n/t
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #6
32. Release? Please. This is a current event in Chicago. Ongoing.
Hillary started nothing.

Try reading the Chicago papers.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 AM
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25. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:58 AM
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4. You've got to be kidding.
Comparing a photo-op from the 90's with Obama's twenty years in bed with the man? Jesus...
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:01 AM
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8. Do you smell "desperation" ?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #8
15. This is becoming so absurd it beggars the imagination!
I don't know if I can support Obama in the fall if he is nominated - it is that bad to me...
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. i will not move a finger to vote for obama ... i cannot vote for obama even if he happens to top the
ticket. i cannot vote for a disingenuous man and he is.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. That's too bad.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:22 AM by jefferson_dem
It's laughable that in a thread about Hillary's links to Rezko, you are prompted to say you will never vote for Obama.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #20
41. and a good deal of us feel the exact same way about Billary,
I wouldn't walk two steps to cast a vote for Billary let alone drive to the polls.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #41
56. So we have two "front runners" that have large numbers of Democrats
who won't vote for either of them in November. Why are they front runners, again?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #56
68. I feel more lost at this time than in "04"
:cry:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #68
75. Me too. The Party is showing that it doesn't have the gumption
to be in power. The congress has proved it since '06 and now the "front runners" are re-enforcing the proof. This is beyond pitiful, it is truly sad...
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #15
21. Who says he drummed up the picture?

The news show probably did.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:08 AM
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18. she looks good in that photo
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Better than she does in the interview.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:19 AM by jefferson_dem
That's for sure.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:01 AM
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7. Not her best interview.......
The beginning is eery to me. She talks about the "type" of campaign she is running, as though it is something to be proud of. Bwaaawaaaaa! :rofl:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #7
35. "I try not to attack first"
(from the interview) they lie with such ease....
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:02 AM
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9. Typical Clinton style...
accuse your opponent of doing something that you are already doing, then when it comes back up, tell everybody it's "old news".

I was never a fan of Bill Clinton (what with the "triangulation" and all), as I felt he squandered too many opportunities to make real, progressive change that would benefit middle & lower class Americans. Instead, he spent time doing the DLC's bidding and cutting deals with the GOP that were counter to the ideals of the New Society that 95% of Democrats hold near and dear.

As a former Dennis Kucinich supporter, I've come to conclusion that Bill & Hillary getting a third term would not be in the best interests of the Democrat party. A new generation of leaders need to assume the mantle of leadership from those who've had there chance and failed.

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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:03 AM
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10. It's the Alberto Gonzales defense
I don't know...I don't remember...I don't recall...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:04 AM
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11. Depends what your defintion of "know" is
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. She didn't "know" him...she just "knew" his money n/t
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. She was taken aback by it
You can tell she didn't expect it, but I am sure by the end of the day this will be ALL over the news.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #16
30. Yes, likely, a one time photo op will be more in the news than 17 years of friendship.
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BarackBucks Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:05 AM
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12. "That's not my crook, my crook doesn't take pictures"
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:07 AM
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17. She was great on that interview.
And handled it very well. Of course they did not show that she was counterpunching Obama after he attacked her. But, she address it well.

Do you guys on Obama's side honestly feel that it is ok to have a 17 year relationship with a crook, but not ok to have a photo taken with him?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:21 AM
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23. Obama's attempt at this = Bush saying Ken lay donated to Ann Richards (he did!)
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 AM by robbedvoter
It doesn't surprise me that MSM is trying to put Obama's scandal on Hillary - they were trying to slime Democrats with Enron too (they approached Gore too - leaving out the fact that they were sent away)

Media coverage stats WHY????:



Obama: 47% positive, 16% negative.
Clinton: 27% positive, 38% negative.
McCain: 12% positive, 48% negative
Giuliani: 28% positive, 37% negative
JEDNE

Net numbers

Obama +31
Giuliani -9
Clinton -11
McCain -36
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #23
67. Why indeed...
*sigh*
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:28 AM
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29. I really don't think it is wise to demonize him to this extreme. Makes Obama look all that worse.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:31 AM by kikiek
They have pictures take with thousands of White House visitors. If that level of "socializing" looks bad, the relationship between he and Obama is disastrous.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #29
33. This is exactly what will happen, they will spend all day on this.
And tomorrow they'll spend all day talking about how Obama actually knew the guy.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 AM
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36. I have a picture of myself with Bill, but I doubt that he remembers me
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. I have one of me with the Clintons. Same pose.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. You didn't happen to get involved in any scandals would you? If so post your pic in the...
...Obama threads. They would enjoy grabbing more photo op pictures to slander Hillary.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #42
92. Depends on how you define "scandal"
;-)
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:37 AM
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37. Desperation from Obama Supporters
A photo op is not the same as getting a sweat heart real estate deal and representing a front charity in co-hoots with the Slum Lord.

I'm not a Clinton fan by the way.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #37
39. Oh how Obama would love it if his Rezko problems were just some little photo ops.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 AM by Maribelle
With each passing day, it seems Obama sinks deeper into this.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #39
45. Right. Rezko will sink Obama. I didn't think so before, but now,
after this, I do. Rezko will bring him down...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #45
69. you mean like the thousands of Clinton scandals brought them down?
Wishful thinking on the part of Billaryites.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #69
71. They were vetted with those "scandals." Will Obama be?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #71
74. who knows? but Billary people should be the last ones to jump
on the "SCANDAL" bandwagon. I'm just waiting with bated breath for TMZ to come out with shocking videos of Slick Willie, caught with his trousers down again. Why would anyone in his right mind want to live through that shit again.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #74
89. I don't think John Edwards would care to see your nose stuck in Clinton's zipper.
And if I'm not wrong, you might want to think about taking his picture off your posts.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. I can guarantee this about BC, it won't be my nose stuck in his
zipper, but that's about all I can guarantee about The "Big Dog". :rofl

And thanks for your suggestion. Need I tell you what you can do with it?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #69
72. I don't support Clinton or Obama. But this is just stupid. Rezko is
no problem for Obama, even though Obama has been in bed with him for twenty years; but a Rezko photo-op with Clinton from the 90s is terrible for Clinton? That is not only stupid, it is insulting to the electorate. If this is how Obama views the intelligence of the Democratic Party members and independents, then it is better for all to know now rather than later. Obama has some grade-A idiots running his campaign...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #72
77. you mean like Mark Penn who has investments in Blackwater USA?
I just heard that on the Stephanie Miller Show, I knew he was a douchebag, but this is typical of the kind of people who are attracted to the Clintons.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #77
82. No doubt about it. And I think that it is legitimate to point out with whom
Penn has connections. Any of Clinton's advisers or campaign administrators are fair game for scrutiny, as are Obama's and Edwards'. But this trying to tie Rezko to Clinton is just the stupidest thing I have ever seen. It doesn't in any way distance Obama from Rezko and it fails miserably in connecting Clinton to this sleaze-bag. What it does is point out that it was Obama who had the long, close relationship with Rezko; it was Obama who may have profited by his association with Rezko; it was Obama who may have provided a 'quid pro quo' for Rezko's development company; and it in no way attaches anything to Clinton, at all! Obama needs to fire some very, very incompetent people from his campaign - whoever thought this was a "smart" move should be canned...
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #77
88. I don't think John Edwards cares for the use of sexist remarks.
You might want to consider this.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. please don't lecture me, there are quite a few things you need to consider as well
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:43 AM
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40. I have a neighbor who has almost an identical photo
of himself with the Clintons. He has it framed and in his living room.
He'll be surprised to find out that he has "ties to the Clintons."

:rofl: :rofl:

You guys have really jumped the shark with this one, sad, sad, sad.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:45 AM
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43. Was he involved in any scandals? Please provide the picture to the Obama supporters if so. :)
They need more to post.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:48 AM
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46. About 2 years ago he was a couple of days late
paying his HOA dues.

Jump on it team Obama!!! :rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:55 AM
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55. And my Grandfather has signed congrats letters from THREE presidents
Reagan, Clinton, and Bush II -- and has them all framed.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:02 AM
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63. Well clearly your grandfather was involved in
1. Iran-contra
2. "Travelgate"
3. Lies leading up to the Iraq war


GO TEAM OBAMA!!! Go get 'em!! :rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:46 AM
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44. MSNBC picks up the story.
Clinton denies knowing about photo with Rezko

NEW YORK - Democrat Hillary Clinton denied knowing Tony Rezko, an indicted Chicago businessman, on Friday after being told of a photograph that shows a smiling Clinton and her husband standing next to the man she called a "slum landlord" earlier this week.

"I don't know the man. I wouldn't know him if he walked in the door. I don't have a 17-year relationship with him," Clinton said, referring to her charge that Barack Obama, a rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, has a longstanding relationship with Rezko.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22839654/
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:52 AM
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50. Heh, "I don't have a 17 year relationship with the man." Well played.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:55 AM
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54. Depends on what your definitions of "have" and "relationship" are.
Clintonian-speak leaves much wiggle-room.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:56 AM
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57. I find it unlikely that she has "had" a relationship anything similar to Obama's.
Using any definition of the word "had."
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:53 AM
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51. You may not like here, but you have to admit she's pretty smart
She makes you really think when she says she doesn't have a 17 year relationship with the slum lord like Obama has.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:37 AM
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70. YuKK...where's her makeup artist?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:53 AM
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52. I hope this Drudge/Obama alliance continues
because it sure isn't helping Obama.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 AM
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61. I'm beginning to stray from Obama supporters on this general fact.
Most of their sources really are right wing shitholes. Someone posted something about Hillary "snapping" at people, and then you go to the site and all it does is sing praise for Obama, while trashing Hillary, and throwing out pro-life talking points. It's fucking disgusting.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:58 AM
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59. haha
thats pretty funny.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:06 AM
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66. Nice picture. Got a link to date and story....? Looks photoshopped to me.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:19 AM by suston96
I searched Chicago Tribune "Rezco Clintons" and got zero returns.

Edited: Searched Chicago Sun Times also - zero - nothing.

But I will keep trying.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:53 AM
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73. oh hell yes, lets bring out the photo album of everyone the
clintons have had a picture taken with. Just like earlier this week showing a young boy standing behind a watermelon and the author of the post implying this was racist. Never mind the note written which implied that arkansas had the biggest watermelons in the world.

But we HRC supporters will see more and more of this "guilt by picture". but maybe we could ask obama why all the lies. What lies you ask. Well, I am here to tell ya. Obama's life story is vastly different from the one he portrays. My point: if he will lie about his mother and father, what else is he lying about? Rezko?

Obama seems to think he has a sense of entitlement because of that 2002 speech was overwhelming. There was panic in Obama's campaign when HRC upstaged him on October 2nd 2007 and obliterated Obama's grandiose celebration of a four year-old speech.He thought being right on the war in 2002 was his ticket to the White House. What conceit. What incompetence. What self-absorption.

Remember several days ago, he promised a 'tough, new Obama.- 'No more Mr. Nice Guy!- with Team Clinton. But it was more of the same sashaying around HRC. He never laid a hand on her. All the while, he was being emasculated by Team Clinton and it may play well in South Carolina, but throughout the country folks are seeing there is no Obama there there.


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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:27 AM
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80. I think you are right. There are legitimate ways to attack Clinton,
this kind of idiocy is not it. Obama appears less ready for prime time with each passing day...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:05 AM
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76. Looking tired and awful there, Hilly
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:09 AM
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78. I know...are Makeup artists on strike too?
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:22 AM
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79. Obama is having a bad month...
I was on the fence between Hill and Obama and after all this 'slum"landlord guy talk....Well, I don't know, it seems as though he is lying and covering up something bigger about him. He is not being Honest with all of us. I am sorry but he is not the "bright, change in politics" kind of guy he was trying to portray. It did work for a while but when it all came out he is just like the rest of them: dishonest, corrupt, and slick......SO if I am gonna have a President who is all that (which they all are by the way) I might as well get one with some background and some experience to go along with it. Not just 3 years as a senator....

Sorry, Obama does have a future as a great politician, 8 years from now. It is not his time yet. He needs to season a little. Needs to toughen up some. If he get's this rattled over Bill cuttin him up, think what the Repugs will do to him.........


HILLARY08
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:35 AM
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81. If it's real corrupt, real slick and real sleazy that you want, I can't argue with your choice
:thumbsup:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:47 AM
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83. funny how you associate Obama with being "rattled" by Bill, but
have you seen Bill all red-faced and angry when someone sticks a mike in his face? And surely you caught that award winning performance by Hilly in the New Hampshire diner when she "choked up" after losing Iowa. So, you reached the conclusion that only Obama is "rattled"? Funny that........
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