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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:09 PM
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Clinton will get Obama's supporters because he'll endorse her STRONGLY
Even though I think Obama is only out for himself and will do anything to position himself where he thinks he'll get the most votes, in the end I think he comes down on the side of Democrats on most issues.

Even if he doesn't, he would be finished politically if he threw a tantrum. He would look like a whiner and a sore loser and it would be the final nail in his image of being some kind of unifying feelgood optimist.

Another thing is that I don't think black people support Obama the man as a fellow black man. Let's face it, he is much farther from their real life experience than even Bill Clinton was. Clinton was poor white southern Horatio Alger. Obama comes off as elitist Harvard type who doesn't relate much to most black people.

So I think the black support is extremely shallow and most of them would turn on him if it looked like he was asking them to sell themselves up the river and let a RePUKE win just because "Obama" didn't get the nomination.




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sonroadera Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:11 PM
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1. you sure post a lot of garbage
do you know that?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:12 PM
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2. Clinton might actually have to take him on as her running mate if she's the nominee.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:13 PM
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5. It's probably his for the turning down but they will handle it quietly I think
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:14 PM
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8. Now that is sheer insanity.
Nobody wants a VEEP whose only goal will be to stab you in the back and take your job.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:57 PM
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17. partnership
Johnson and Kennedy weren't the closest of friends either, but their partnership was strong until Kennedy got bumped.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:19 PM
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11. true - and she could do a lot worse - a Clinton/Obama ticket would be a lock
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:12 PM
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3. Any one of them will support the nominee.
I am sure Obama would have no problem supporting Clinton, and visa versa. They are Democrats and they know we need to strengthen the party.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:12 PM
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4. Nice of you to count him out so fast.
I don't count any of them out. And I can't say who Obama relates to, except that it isn't me.
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okoboji Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:13 PM
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6. what if.......
Obama pulls a Joe from Connecticut and runs as an "independent"?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:32 PM
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15. He wouldn't.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:14 PM
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7. And Vice Versa ...
It'll be a love fest for whoever gets the nod in the end - well publicly anyways.
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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:15 PM
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9. I think he will too.
Which Republican would his supporters possibly turn to? Personally, I think this primary campaign's "insults" between Clinton and Obama pale as to what the general will become, when they unleash Rove-Reed-et al. It'll be a bloodbath, and we'll dish it out in return.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:18 PM
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10. Did you think a predominately black jury would convict OJ?
I know a lot of people who did. But they were wrong weren't they?

Point is experience should have taught us it's dangerous for caucasians to pontificate about how we think african americans (as a group) might vote or feel about a specific issue.

I don't know what Obama supporters (black or white) might do if Hillary is the nominee.

But I fully expect she will be so I guess we'll all get to find out.
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predfan Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:21 PM
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12. actually, I'm not thinking of supporters in terms
of race. I'm thinking of them as good Democrats who're making a difficult decision, but will be big enough to support the winner. That goes for Clinton supporters as well, should she lose. We can't take our eye off the prize.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:24 PM
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13. you post one revolting thing after another
who you think you are to make such ignorant and ugly pronouncements is a mystery. Go do something unspeakable to yourself.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:26 PM
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14. You are right to a degree...
He will strongly endorse Clinton and campaign for her if she gets the nomination. This will probably bring almost all of the supporters who are regularly involved in the process to Clinton. Who I do not think it will bring as consistently is the people who are new to the process. For instance Clinton will see an increase in youth voter turnout in the general (as we saw for Democrats in 2002, 2004, and 2006), but she will not win them at the same margin or turn them out at the same rate as Obama would...

This is important too because voting is habit forming and if someone votes for the same party thier first three elections they are likely to vote the same way the rest of thier lives. We are on the verge of a new solidly Democratic generation on the scale of, if not more so then, the Greatest Generation.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:38 PM
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16. Keep taking blacks (and independents) for granted. Go ahead, democrats... keep it up...
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 02:40 PM by Essene
To assume Obama fans are all going to support Hillary just because he endorses her... is a huge assumption.

You can already bank on a very large chunk of black voters NEVER voting for her in Nov.

N E V E R.

The Clintons have shown disregard for black voters in the last month, and that they take them for granted.

Even in NYC... her support among this core base is dwindling. Folks can spin this however they want, but you won't see a lot of crying in the media from blacks (they'll just be attacked for "playing the race card" anyways). They will turn out against her in primaries... and perhaps not vote at all in Nov (or support Bloomberg or Mccain)

This is just like the Dems losing the latinos...
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