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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:17 AM Original message |
My departure from the Clinton camp will be little noted nor long remembered. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. I hear you, but I don't have any illusions about the Clintons |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Deleted message |
neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Smells like a Hit Diary |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Project, much? IndianaGreen has been on DU since inception & is well respected... |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. well put |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I agree with this, and I don't even have a t.v. Sick. Of. Them. and here's why |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. You made yourself poinently painfully clear. |
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AmBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
50. There's always Edwards. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wonderful, erudite post, Friend. I, however... |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. BTW...SHe's ON Now !!!! |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. what a great pic, i have never seen it before |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. And here in lies the problem with the presidential elections this year.. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. I saw a show this week |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. You are correct... There was a reporter riding along with John that reported |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
83. Note that Jon Stewart's editing team had edited OUT the clips ... |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
82. Please do recall the polls that showed John Kerry defeating George Bush. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
7. It was never in Obama's interest to inject race into the campaign |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
68. seems to me it was the Obama surrogates who did the race-bating and only |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Believe what you will. I only speak as someone who was as excited |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I do not like what I have seen from either camp over the race issue. Later. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
84. What you said, WesDem. Agreed. n/t |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. I agree with most of what you say, however I would go further |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. Obama has not been eliminated as a viable candidate |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. I see you're from Ohio; looks like the primary will matter there |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. He has my vote. I hope it still matters. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. The good people of Iowa, 96% white, gave Obama the nod after getting to thoroughly know him. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Lots of white folks in NH voted for him too |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yes, I mentioned that inside my post. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. not to rain on your parade |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
89. You are totally incorrect... |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
85. Yeah, that's been killing me. It's as though Obama winning most of the black vote in SC ... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. You are better than I am, because if Hillary wins the nomination I probably won't vote for her |
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vssmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. You are better than I am, because if Hillary wins the nomination I probably won't vote for her |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Unfortunately, that is probably what it will come done to, and each person |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. starting to feel the same way |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. Not a surprise since the right wing is dousing |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Our brains have been taken over by the MSM and Corporate Interests. Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-27-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #64 |
88. bullshit |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
86. The US Supreme Court is my only concern. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. I disagree with you, and I find it interesting that you would blame |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. bwahahahaha. typical of you. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Cali: heed my grandmother's words: |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Evergreen, Grandma also told me to practice what I preach. n/t |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. and yet |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. How so? Don't think I called you any names or trashed your right to believe as you |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. no. I was not talking to you. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I can disagree with you without accusing you of drinking the "kool aid", can't I? |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. he unified the black vote in SC. The polls shifted after he started crying Racism |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. And you think that unifying the black vote is South Carolina was worth the risk on his part |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Obama needs a win, badly. Iowa was not enough to carry him and |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You are right that he needs a win in SC, but he knows that racial polarization is too high a price |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. see, we fundamentally disagree, because his whole campaign has always been about race |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You're right. Our disagreement could not be more fundamental. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Yes, the price is high--and I wonder why he still went for it. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Everybody but those wearing Clinton blinders KNOW by now who |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Evergreen you must think Obama is a idiot! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. Nicely said. It is indeed baffling how many have bought into the media spin! |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
20. You'll be back in November. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You are probably right. My guess it that African Americans will be back, too. |
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knowledgeispwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. To me, it means we are taken for granted... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. May I just say, thank you for your post, and for recognizing reality. |
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southern_dem (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
33. Sorry but |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Welcome to DU! |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
80. aloha, welcome to DU. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
34. Thanks for your observation |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Such A Disturbing Post |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Welcome to DU, UALRBSofL |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
43. Thank you for your courageous post. I agree with it except... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I hope you are right. There is a chance that you are. However, I trust (distrust?) Bill's |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. I understand you're feeling kind of down, |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. That 2nd link is prior to the destructive tone that the Clintons |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Aloha FC |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. Feb 5th in California! |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Yes We Can, baby |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. kick! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. Well said. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. Why is everyone so naive about what it takes to win an election? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I think Hillary and Bill are as far from being racist as one can be, which makes injecting race |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. Too quick to blame the Clintons |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Not quick at all. I've been watching and connecting the dots for |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
59. Noted and remembered! |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. p.s. I wouldn't count Obama out. |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. He's quite the Whiner |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. Ahem, as I was saying... |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. Sincerity? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Always hard to tell at DU, isn't it? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'm amazed at how many people the anti-Clinton folks insult--without realizing it. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
81. Any second thoughts on the viability of Obama? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
87. KICK!!! |
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