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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:22 PM
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Poll question: Should Barack Obama be able to play to black culture-
or stereotypes, whichever way you see it- without being criticized for it?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:23 PM
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1. In the same way that Hillary plays to feminist ideals
I'm your girl!

I don't bake cookies!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:24 PM
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2. What do you mean "play to black culture"?
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 05:24 PM by Maddy McCall
Last I checked, he is black. Why is it that he's "playing to black culture?"

Color me confused here.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:24 PM
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3. "Play to"- as in, connect with people on that level.
Not like "pretend."
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:25 PM
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4. Is he black? They why is he "playing to" people when they are black?
Still confused.

(And I'm not a Barack supporter.)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:27 PM
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8. That just sounds like a "yes."
You should know, though, that there are different approaches to courting people, as a politician. "Playing to" people is what politicians do.

Are you finished?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:29 PM
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11. Finished with what? I'm just trying to get you to clarify.
How does Obama "play to black culture?" Can you give some examples?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:31 PM
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13. Adding the y'alls and increasing the drawl, like John Edwards?
John Edwards always turns on and off his accent depending on the audience. Up in New Hampshire Edwards shut it down completely.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:25 PM
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5. Same as Hillary with women
Edwards plays red neck culture, too.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:28 PM
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9. Edwards plays to red neck culture?
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 05:29 PM by Blue State Native
:wtf: Are you for real? What does that even mean? Care too clarify that?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:29 PM
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12. rofl
:rofl:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:26 PM
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6. If Hillary can hide behind her husband because shes a woman, why not?
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:57 PM
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20. if only obama would stop hiding behing michelle; guess he's not a real man. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:27 PM
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7. "without being criticized for it?" No.
This is the US of A. There is no free lunch.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:28 PM
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10. I should have asked whether he could be correctly criticized for it. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:07 PM
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21. You mean anything other than doting approval isn't "correctly criticized"
pfft
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:36 PM
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14. Anyone who follows Obama's campaign KNOW that he does NOT *play* his skin tone.
We should be thankful that "big dawg's" shameless Southern Strategy ... talking code to revive the Ghost of Lee Atwater's type dirty tricks did NOT *play.*

Obama has been *genuine* (not *playing* anyone but himself) but HRC's surrogates thought they could bring the white male mindset back to the days of "Jim Crowe." Thank God that such deplorable tactics are in the process of blowing up in their faces.

I've lost all respect for both Clintons. And yes, I steadfastly DEFENDED him through that horrific impeachment process. Now, I wonder if Bill Clinton wasn't so damn arrogant, if we would be saying "President Gore" right now? :shrug:
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:37 PM
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15. Welllll.....
...only if he doesn't act too black, know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink?

Some things in this country really haven't changed in fifty years. The only way many whites will ever accept a black man is if he acts white. God forbid anyone besides black comedians should ever acknowledge cultural differences.

The way things have played out so far in this campaign has reminded me of a lot of things I'd tried to forget. I don't think I like us much. As a species, I mean...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:37 PM
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16. simple yes no polls such as this are a set up for binary divisions.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:40 PM
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18. No, there is a third "Something else?" option just waiting for you to vote for it
and write....something else.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:37 PM
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17. you mean like..Black America will rise up and vote for Obama??
Or it's now or never..so vote for my husband?
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 05:56 PM
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19. sure, if the other candidates can too. i would hope they can and would try to relate to women;
if they *didn't*, that would be a bigger problem.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:08 PM
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22. White America
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:38 PM
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23. why is this an issue? whites have been pandering to the black vote for decades
...and look where its gotten our black citizens. Or try to walk in someone else's shoes if one can.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 06:46 PM
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24. I say yes because he is black. And, Hillary should play to women because she is a woman.
The point here is that people want to be heard and "feel" like their representatives value who they are, understand their needs, and will represent them in such a way that their quality of life will improve. Who better than "one like them." Except when you are betrayed by "one like you." For example, Michelle Malkin, first generation Filipino and anchor baby, born to Filipino parents who "In 2004, she wrote In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror, defending Japanese American internment by the United States Government during World War II and relating this theme to the contemporary War on Terrorism, taking some heat from Asian American civil rights organizations who had been uniformly opposed to this historical policy." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin) And, Linda Chavez whom Bush nominated for Labor Secretary withdrew her nomination when "...after questions arose over an illegal immigrant who stayed with her and provided household help in the early 1990s. Chavez blamed what she said were the "search-and-destroy" politics of Washington." (http://transcripts.cnn.com/2001/
ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/09/bush.wrap/)
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