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sellitman

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:33 AM
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Here is why I will not switch from Edwards to Obama in the Primary.

I find it curious how Obama supporters feel I owe their candidate my vote because mine is behind.

What I want to know is wouldn't Edwards be ahead of Hillary if they voted their Liberal base and switched their primary vote to Edwards?

Besides if Edwards isn't the eventual nominee I have no preference.

None.

I will support and work for our eventual nominee because to do otherwise is foolish but stop fooling yourselves. Your candidate is not my second choice. Neither is Hillary for that matter.

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Kittycat

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:38 AM
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1. I don't feel you owe Obama your vote. You're entitled to vote for whom you want.

Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 09:38 AM by Kittycat

I'm completely fine with John staying in the race until the end, and think he should - if nothing more to protest the Media that has ignored his campaign.

ETA: And if JE were to pull it out in the end, I'd root for him all the way to the white house. He's admittedly my second choice, but certainly not a bad choice.

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surfermaw

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM
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13. Feel the same way,

Going to stop watching CNN with Blitzer, he is the biggest republican I know off other than Jack C. his side kick. Edward has the res ponsibility to stay in the race, many would have voted for him if the junk hadn't gotten out he didn't have enough money to run on..What about Huckabee, haven't heard old Wolf saying a thing about Huckabee not having enough money to stay in. Heck he was on two stations this morning....

Stick to your guns on Edwards , Obama can't win the G.E. no matter what anyone thinks and the republicans know that and are already laughing out their I want say what....

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thoughtcrime1984

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Sun Jan-27-08 01:10 PM
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19. Same here

Who is saying JE should give up? I know I'm not.

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Donkeykick

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:38 AM
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2. I'm Not Afraid To State This Right Now!

I wouldn't be ashamed to see either one of the three candidates be my next President--Hillary, Obama or Edwards.

A lot more better than those GOP choices.

Heck, even Rush Limbaugh is stirred up over this ordeal--the thing that he has against McCain; I'm loving it! :headbang:

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sellitman

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:41 AM
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4. Good you feel that way.

I am not happy with Obama-Hillary but I would vote for either if that turns out to be our choices.

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roguevalley

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Sun Jan-27-08 04:08 PM
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20. we do have a deep bench. :) I am edwards to the bitter end.

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DiscussTed

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:39 AM
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3. Hypothetically,

who would your second choice be?

I am just curious.

Edwards is still my #1 BTW.

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sellitman

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:42 AM
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5. I'd flip a coin right now

I vote in CT and as long as JE is running thats a choice I don't have to contemplate.

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Snotcicles

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:54 AM
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12. Right, SECOND, isn't a choice, it's a settlement. nt

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Adelante

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:45 AM
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6. You should keep to your candidate

Other candidate supporters should stop being such vultures. People move their support when they are ready and willing and not before, if ever. There is no sense in stirring resentment.

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havocmom

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:53 AM
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7. Some things to ponder RE Still voting for Edwards (and I am too)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4223104 some good views here on maintaining support for Edwards

That post linked to this. It addresses the most common arguments heard from Camp Hillary and Obama Supporters and it gives eloquent, accurate words to what I believe many of us are feeling. It is a keeper.

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John Edwards being in this race is the tether to Hillary's attacks. She can't go too far out on that limb for fear of alienating folks and sending them his way. An all out flame-war between the Clinton campaign and the Obama campaign does nothing but give the GOP fodder for the general election. This is not in the best interests of the party. Edwards has consistently made his campaign about this issues, and his staying in this race is the best hope we have for the primaries to continue to be about the issues. Hate the flame wars? Keep Edwards in this thing.

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Why this is a false meme

1. There is no evidence that all or most of Edwards's supporters would vote for Obama.

2. If Edwards pulls votes from Hillary this only helps Obama in a brokered convention. Edwards has already made several declarations that he and Obama are closer on the issues to each other than they are to Hillary. He has already very publicly called her the "status quo candidate". Therefore, one could reasonably assume that if Edwards were to support anyone in a brokered convention that person would be Barack Obama. Edwards's support may be the deciding factor in such a scenario, and breaking toward Obama would give him the win.

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lisainmilo

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:50 AM
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10. You are exactly right!

Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 AM by lisainmilo

John Edwards staying in this race helps Obama. He takes away the votes from Hillary, though that is NOT the reason I am voting for Edwards.
Edwards stands as the ONLY candidate, I see as, the corporate spoiler. He is truly running a transparent race, based on the monies supporting his campaign (NO LOBBYIST) He simply believes, and I do too, that if you want the kinds of social changes he is purposing, then you can't take the money from them. Republican (Corporate) domination is POWERFUL, the most POWERFUL, that it has ever been. That is why I am supporting JRE. He would take them on and I have no doubt, if given the chance, he would WIN.

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havocmom

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:51 AM
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11. Thank you ::chuckle:: I don't get that much around here

But I only echo the thoughts. I did not write them.

That KOS post does make a lot of sense, doesn't it?

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kelligesq

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Sun Jan-27-08 11:04 AM
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16. ditto I'm with Edwards period. - however

Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:06 AM by kelligesq

if JRE isn't the nominee I think we ought to talk him into being a LOBBYIST for the American people. Nobody is representing the American people now against the corporations in DC -

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AmBlue

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Sun Jan-27-08 01:09 PM
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18. EXCELLENT IDEA!!!

In fact, please do not let this idea die. If Edwards isn't the nominee or doesn't take a position in a new administration, I would love to open this topic for serious discussion.

The People of this great nation need their own LOBBYIST. Without a doubt.

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Froward69

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Sun Jan-27-08 09:55 AM
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8. I will simply be flipping

my grandmothers 1920 silver dollar. Heads or tails. Obama or edwards.

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DiscussTed

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:42 AM
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9. I agree

I don't want JE to pull out. I like him and hope he can go the distance regardless, period. That said, it seems to me if HE decides to withdraw the majority of his supporters will shift to to Obama.

The Clintons have their base but I do not think they will be able to attract much new support going forward. I think Bill helps the campaign less than he hurts it and I predict he will continue to do so.

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Occam Bandage

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM
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14. Who thinks you owe Obama your vote?

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sellitman

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Sun Jan-27-08 11:27 AM
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17. There is a prevailing opinion on DU that Obama is a second choice to Edwards supporters

IMHO.

Call it a mood.

I am saying in MY CASE ONLY that I have no second choice.

Both are distasteful compared to Edwards. (not compared to the repiggies)

I will support the Democratic nominee though. I will even go so far as to say I will work for him/her and support him/her financially.

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goodhue

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Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM
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15. I've switched, but it had little to do with the feelings of Obama supporters

I've been excited about an Edwards presidency for many months now, but ever since Iowa I've been coming to terms with the fact that it won't likely happen. Today I feel good about an Obama presidency, Clinton not so much. I'm not sure how the feelings of Obama supporters enter into it.

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