More on the "snub" -- Russert just said Clinton wanted to sit next to Obama

Bumblebee

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:27 PM
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More on the "snub" -- Russert just said Clinton wanted to sit next to Obama

at SOTU to show unity but his campaign turned her down

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aquart

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:29 PM
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1. What?

How does he know that?

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Bumblebee

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:30 PM
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3. It's the story Clinton campaign is apparently telling reporters

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busymom

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:30 PM
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2. link

or is this just hearsay?

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Bumblebee

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:31 PM
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5. no link -- it was during the chit-chat with Keith and Tweety around 7 pm

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okasha

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:31 PM
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Timmeh the Worm turns.

n/t

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killbotfactory

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:31 PM
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4. For shame!

He's lost my vote.

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psychopomp

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:09 PM
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48. Do you mean Timmeh?

You couldn't possibly be serious that you would base your vote on hearsay reported on TV regarding seating at the SOTU...could you?

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spotbird

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:22 PM
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64. If Russet's word is good enough for

you, your judgment...

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:32 PM
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6. I heard him say that too. What a little snot. n/t

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babylonsister

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:32 PM
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7. What's this unity you speak of? They are in competition.

I have a difficult time believing that when she wouldn't even shake his hand when he announced his candidacy.

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:37 PM
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15. But, but, but I thought Barack wanted to bring the country together...he's the Uniter, not the

divider...he wants to give us HOPE? I guess that's only when it suits him.....during a stump speech. Geezus.

They had agreed to sit together for the SOTU to show DEMOCRATIC UNITY and Barack reneged after the Kennedy endorsement and sat with Ted instead. Nice guy. He cares about the party. I can tell.

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951-Riverside

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:45 PM
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22. He should unite and help Hillary win

:sarcasm:

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:48 PM
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30. He shouldn't say things he doesn't really mean. n/t

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951-Riverside

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:55 PM
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51. but he wouldn't be a politician if he stopped doing that

:rofl:

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babylonsister

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:53 PM
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38. Who says they had agreed to sit together, PunkinHead Russert?

This is the first I've heard of it.

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elixir

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:13 PM
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60. It's like a bunch of tweens at a lunch table - who's going to sit next to who?! He could sit w/ both

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rinsd

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:33 PM
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8. Big fat grain of salt with anything said by Russert

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Joe the Revelator

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:33 PM
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9. More bullshit spin from Team Hillary. They'll milk everything for all its wory

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Bodhi BloodWave

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:49 PM
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33. agreed. if it was true tho, it would seem that Obama has more power then i believed

since he can decide who sits where during the SOTU event :P

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ErnestoG

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:34 PM
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10. First time I've seen Russert given much credence on DU

..and I think I know exactly why. Because what he said serves Her Majesty.

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rinsd

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:35 PM
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12. Wow so in the two whole days you've been here this is the 1st time?

I'm shocked.

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Unsane

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:34 PM
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That actually isn't even what he said.

Russert noted that Obama had planned for Teddy to sit next to him for a while.

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Bumblebee

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:36 PM
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14. That was the excuse given to the Clinton people. Let's see if Obama denies

that.

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:39 PM
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17. WRONG. I heard the whole thing. Hillary and Obama had planned to sit together to show Democratic

Unity and Barack reneged on the agreement after Ted decided to endorse him. He sat with Ted instead.

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NYCGirl

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:46 PM
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26. He sat next to Ted Kennedy last year, too, BTW. NT

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:47 PM
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29. So. What's that got to do with him reneging on an agreement?

Nothing.

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NYCGirl

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:49 PM
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32. The Obama people said there was no agreement. NT

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:50 PM
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34. LOL...and he tells the truth all the time, I know. n/t

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NYCGirl

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:51 PM
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35. And Hillary's people are paragons of truthtelling. Sure. NT

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in_cog_ni_to

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:06 PM
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44. I wouldn't know. I'm not a Hillary supporter. n/t

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Stephanie

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:51 PM
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36. That's not what he said.

He said Clinton approached the campaign about sitting together but Obama already had planned to sit with Teddy.

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Yael

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:03 PM
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54. Um, there were seats on both sides of him

Not that this is true or isn't, but your argument is flawed.

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Nailzberg

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:34 PM
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11. To make it easier for her to follow on when he sits or stands.

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vi5

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:36 PM
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13. Well, I guess the Clinton camp succeeded....

in generating other headlines to dull some of Obama's momentum.

I give them credit. They are cunning like no other and can play the media like fiddles. I guess it comes from the years of persecution by that same media.

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tishaLA

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:02 PM
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41. yup

very effective.

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Reciprocity

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:38 PM
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16. I heard Russert say that as well.

I'm not sure what to make of it except he wanted the headlines to focus on the Kennedy endorsement. Couple that with not shaking a ladies hand, and I think that speaks for itself.

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anamandujano

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:06 PM
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45. "he wanted the headlines to focus on the Kennedy endorsement"

That's why he got upset that his endorsement shook hands with the evil lady.

He really is a big baby. I'm sure Ted is embarrassed by the situation.

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Debi

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:42 PM
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18. Or to make sure she gots as much 'face time' on the TeeVee as Obama and Kennedy did

:eyes:

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Karmadillo

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:43 PM
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19. Shame.

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no name no slogan

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:44 PM
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20. Well, I heard Hillary was talking smack about his mama

:eyes:

The non-story that won't end.

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KennedyGuy

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:44 PM
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21. troubling and unseemly on Obamas part

just what we need..another Chimpy like king in the white house

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:45 PM
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23. WOW

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madrchsod

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:46 PM
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24. what a fucking joke

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Tulkas

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:46 PM
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25. Who would want to sit next to HER??? Not me I tell ya. I think Biden wants to be Sec. of State so he

put up with her for an hour or so.

Not a good trade but he is a trooper

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1corona4u

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:09 PM
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47. They've been friends for 19 years...

I personally think he was just being a friend. You do know what that is, don't you?

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Yael

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:06 PM
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55. That role was created for him, or he for it one.

If whoever we put in there doesn't JUMP at the chance to put him in as SoS, they are plum nuts.

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jlake

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:17 PM
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63. Biden rocks. He is a true friend - rare in Washington.

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jlake

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:47 PM
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27. Obama is a snot nosed little liar.

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JAbuchan08

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:04 PM
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43. You Hillarites sure are quick with the ad hominem.

If someone doesn't like Hillary then THEY must be the bad ones. There is no way concievable that Hillary has earned any of this antipathy herself :sarcasm:

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jlake

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:07 PM
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46. Obama is a liar because he is running on a unity ticket but won't even work with members of his

own party. His arrogance and ego know no bounds.

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JAbuchan08

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:47 PM
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50. "Unity" can't be forced it has to be achieved

Hillary's camp bludgeoning us with a "unity" theme isn't going to make ME want to unite with her.

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jlake

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:56 PM
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52. Yeah, and the Republicans are dying to "achieve" it with Obama

:eyes:

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JAbuchan08

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:07 PM
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56. Well in any context unity for its own sake is ridiculous

Hillary is not going to minimize her own flaws by making nicey-nice to Obama, especially after she (fairly or unfairly) tried to skewer him and patronize his supporters as naive and stupid, especially after pulling the gender card after the first debate where she got it the worst mainly because of her position on the Iraq war. Message: "I can give it out but I can't take it." this is typical for people who have no argument.

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JackORoses

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:10 PM
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57. Hillary is a member of the Clinton Party now

she quit being a Democrat when she chose her own political ambition over what's best for the Party and the Nation

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jlake

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:16 PM
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61. Oh, I see. Got a link for that idiotic claim?

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Clinton Crusader

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:47 PM
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28. Well, geez, which is it.....?

Obama had planned for Teddy to sit next to him for a while.

OR

Hillary and Obama had planned to sit together to show Democratic
Unity and Barack reneged on the agreement after Ted decided to endorse him. He sat with Ted instead.

Im leaning towards the latter.

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incapsulated

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:48 PM
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31. But... but.... Unity? Hope? Mending Fences?

rofl

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JAbuchan08

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:02 PM
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42. "unity" in this scenario is Hillary trying to catch some of Obama's reflected glow

She's trying to keep company where she's not wanted than crying foul when people reject her.

C'mon Hillarites, nobody's obligated to like Hillary, nobody's obligated to believe her and nobody's obligated to vote for her, and if nobody feels obligated to do these things than nobody will.

It's pretty sad when you have to shame people into supporting you because you can't inspire them.

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DURHAM D

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:51 PM
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37. Meanwhile Obama managed to greet all of our enemies in the chamber.

I have asked before and I will ask again - Is Obama a Democrat?

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Clinton Crusader

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:59 PM
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40. Hey Durham D, you should meet my husband

He asks me this all the freakin' TIME! I dont know where he got this from, but he's on this kick about Obama being a Repug in Dem clothing.

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DURHAM D

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Tue Jan-29-08 08:14 PM
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49. Actually one can't know.

He is a very plain thin brown paper package tied up with string (David Axelrod) and delivered to us by the Chicago political machine.

He has been David's lab project for 15 years.

I doubt Obama has ever cast a vote or (not voted) on a controversial matter (including the state senate) without consulting with David.

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JAbuchan08

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Tue Jan-29-08 07:57 PM
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39. What's up with "unity" Democrats

Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 07:58 PM by Gonnabuymeagun

They're only ever unified during elections than it's back to bashing liberals in order to gain traction against the Republicans.

I don't want "unity" just so Hillary can pretend she's been on the right side all along.

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Yael

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:01 PM
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53. If he wins the GE -- I have $5 that says he ships the Clinton Inc team

off to be ambassadors in Iceland and Greenland.

:rofl:

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lonestarnot

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:11 PM
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58. Tinytimmytits doesn't only knows how to suck repiglicon ass these days. I wouldn't believe a word

of it.

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jackson_dem

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:12 PM
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59. Obama only wants to unite with rethugs. Not Dems like Hillary and Krugman

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Skip Intro

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:17 PM
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62. Arrogant jerk - his whole message has been bullshit from the begining.

Hope, Unity, Change.

Fuck you, Obama, your veil has fallen, and people can see the real you now.

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gateley

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:31 PM
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65. If I were Obama, I'd have used the opportunity to sit with Kennedy as he did,

and strengthen the support message from earlier in the day. I think it was good strategy. If Kennedy had endorsed Clinton, I think it would have been good strategy for her to do the same as Obama did. :shrug:

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jillan

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:34 PM
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66. No worries - she had a real gentleman sit with her instead....

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AX10

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:35 PM
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67. What is sad is the the msm is pushing the jerk on us just like...

they did with Bush in 2000.
:(

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Bumblebee

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Tue Jan-29-08 09:56 PM
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68. And Bush he did shake hands with, and also clapped the whole time Bush was

entering the hall. Every time I think oh, well, he may be the nominee so I am going to focus on all the positives -- his intellect, charm, galvanizing effect he has on the young people -- he does something to push me away.

From the Washington Times:

When Mr. Bush entered the House chamber at 9:05, Mrs. Clinton stopped clapping after a few moments. Mr. Obama, however, clapped for almost the entire four minutes that Mr. Bush took to walk down the aisle.

...

On his way out of the chamber after his speech, Mr. Bush shook Mr. Obama's hand and then Mr. Kennedy's, and made a few quick remarks to both, drawing a smile from Mr. Obama.

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VotesForWomen

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Tue Jan-29-08 10:13 PM
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69. well, well, well. so much for the 'new tone.' nt

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