Let's have a little fun: Who'd beat whom at poker?

3-person game. No limit Texas hold'em. Edwards, Obama, Clinton.

Let's not turn it ugly. Just a fun discussion.

I know... but I'm an optimist.

I thought we might get to 12 posts before it got ugly.

:-)

ante up

He has more chips!

So I'd place my money on Edwards.

She is a mother and has women's instinct. She can read people well.

That's why I kick ass at Hold 'Em against the guys, anyway.

and women have an advantage. Their opponents either underestimate them or condescend to them.

poker is not about"instinct" Its skill, math, anaylization. Ask any proffesional player. The cutsy answer will be "luck" but the honest answer is "know when to fold"

:eyes:

Yes, there's math and skill and "anaylization" (sic).

But the best professional players could beat you without ever looking at their cards, just playing YOU.

But instinct is key and if you really played, you'd know that.

alright girls calm down. Not gonna get into an argument when you guys wanna tag team me. I'm moving along with my differance of opinion.

and a big one, so watch the homophobic talk, ok?

So I guess you only play heads-up poker? Can't handle a full table?

Is it because you don't like that I answered Clinton? Or is it because girls can't play poker? Why would I lie and say I do if I don't? To impress you? What sense of superiority did you get from "calling me out"?

you big bully.

:rofl: God, big man poker player can't even play a three-handed game.

as analyzation. Do you mean "analysis"?

And reading people and knowing what they're thinking and what they're capable of is a part of instinct.

To tell Nikki she doesn't play poker is just rude and wrong.

You could sit down with any of the top pros and they could never look at their cards, and they'd own your house, your car, and be fucking your wife before your first drink got delivered.

but only the old-timers.

AFter their stroke.

...she'd have Bill standing behind Obama and Edwards, telling her what their cards are. Of course, Bill would occasionally go off-message and start chatting-up the poker-room hostesses or blurting our weird non sequiturs, so it wouldn't be a sure thing.

I had hoped for 12 posts.

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

I bet you sleigh you!

Exit to the right.

... of yours, I simply cannot take that question seriously.

is everything a battle to you? Is everything a competition?

Are you capable of just having a bit of enjoyment, even with people you disagree with?

... it doesn't get more good-hearted than that in my book.

- Dave

let me ask this - are you capable of a sincere post? Or is it all nasty snark and dem-bashing?

... just not yours.

- Dave

I like two of the candidates running, too.

I also like strawberry ice cream. I like sushi. I like bulldogs, frogs and burning logs.

My turnoffs are liars, trolls, and people who refuse to answer a simple question.

... I think #7 was clearly aimed at that.

- Dave

Typical of freeper disruptors.

It will boil down to who went to the best law school and honed to a fine art their street-fighting techniques. That means Edwards, I guess.

But during the play, Obama and Hillary will continually call each other's bluff; however, only Hillary is sitting there holding a strategic card (Bubba face card) under the table. Edwards, however, squints and perceives that card, and with his knees shifts the table while looking at Barack Obama with the obvious question on his face, why did YOU do that?

Moving not a muscle and showing absolutely no surprise, Barack Obama senses this is no time to fold.
You gotta know when to show them, Hillary, Barack says, and I am not waiting until the convention.

Edwards demonstrates the most raw skill, Barack shows the best poker face, Hillary claims to have the most chips and will be the inevitable winner. A recount will be demanded.

well done!

I agree, Obama has the best poker face. But I think Clinton has the guts and the fearlessness to make the big move at the right time. And her poker face ain't too bad, either.

the cards fall. Poker is a hard game to predict when you have multiple gifted, savvy self-serving players. It would certainly be one hell of a game and I'd be afraid to have any serious money on the table!

She'd look them right in the eye, and go all in with K high, and take down the pot with 6 Aces.

but Edwards would likely fold before Clinton if the stakes were really high. She had a steelieness that is undeniable.

I think she'd be the most fearless at the table.

but Hillary in this match. She's all about strategy, and she'd play every hand.

http://www.eleganthorsepictures.com/thomas-true-blues1.html

It's famous great presidents playing poker.


Alas, there is another painting by the artist of complete idiot presidents playing poker!

I love it.

Thanks for that.

My money would be on Truman. Carter would be busted while the others were still stacking their chips.

I'm still trying to figure out why Carter is seated, but LBJ is talking to Woodrow Wilson. Seems to me LBJ would have been seated with a cigar, a glass of bourbon, and a big stack of chips.

Now if I can convince my wife the print is "a good investment."

The counterpoint picture, Grand 'Ol Gang, has a pretty good likeness of Reagan and Ike, but why he has Gdub featured so prominently is beyond me. I also couldn't help but notice he left out Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover (he did have Nixon at the table, though)

Edwards is probably a shark, tight/aggressive.
Obama is probably a rock, tight/passive.
Clinton is probably a maniac, loose/aggressive.

In a cash game Obama might win. Clinton would limp in a lot, to see flops and take it by the turn. Obama would slow play into big wins. Edwards would make money on successful semi-bluffs.

In a tournament, Edwards might win. Unless Obama could steal blinds the antes would eventually force bad action. Clinton would probably lose a big hand at a bad time. Edwards would be able to steal blinds with the semi-bluffs and win big when they hit on the river.

However, stack size matters, table time too. Of the three, Clinton would have the most chips and know the casino (and its staff) better then the others. That is a big advantage.

nice analysis

Updated analysis (AKA poker 101):

Edwards may be playing mule maker by dumping his chips before 2/5.

Casinos frown on unplanned behavior.

http://www.thebluestate.com/2007/09/on-obamas-poker.html

But my gut feeling is that Edwards would have the edge over him and Hillary.

Shuffle up and deal

In those situations the smaller chip stack usually gets a percentage that is larger than implied by the stack size difference, regardless of skill. :)

Hillary's in it to win it.

hands down.

I always win against the guys at poker.