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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:20 PM
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Sadly, Ted Kennedy is wrong.
I don't mean that he's necessarily wrong to endorse Obama. Teddy is wrong that this election holds any chance for any kind of fresh new start for the Democratic Party or the country.

It appears inevitable that our candidate will be either Clinton or Obama. While I think that they would each be decent presidents, neither of them stands for anything substantively new or different other than the accident of their sex and the color of their skin.

A Barack Obama presidency would be record-breaking for one reason only - he would be the first African American elected to the U.S. presidency. That's not a bad thing, but beyond the symbolism inherent in something that should have taken place many years earlier, I don't see anything all that new or different in what Obama is saying. His general message is that we should all move toward the middle and get along. That's pretty much what Bill Clnton did.

Which leads me to the other candidate. If Hillary Clinton is elected president, it will be record-breaking for one reason only - she would be the first woman elected to the U.S. presidency. Again, beyond the symbolism in an event that should have happened years ago, there's unlikely to be anything new or different in a Hillary Clinton presidency that we haven't seen before.

It's pathetic that it has come to this. Wake up, my fellow Americans! While any Democrat would be better than the thieves and murderers who currently have their claws in our nation, why are we as a nation so timid, so reluctant to embrace true change?

All the candidates pushing any kind of real reform have been marginalized, long before the primary season is even well underway. Apparently we live in a country where even the horrors of the past seven years aren't enough to wake us from our slumber.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:26 PM
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1. May I suggest an alternative explanation for the same observations?
If you want to get somewhere ... let's say to a more just and caring society ... you need to figure out how to change things - how to get from here to there. I joined HRC's campaign as soon as Bill left the White House because she said she would continue to try to get things done, but it would take time and patience. I got that.

Please take a second look with an open mind.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:28 PM
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2. Well, I'm supporting Hillary Clinton.
I'm just disappointed that the American people are so brainwashed by the corporate-owned media, they shy away from anything really "radical" like universal health care or reigning in the power of the corporations.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:30 PM
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3. Respecting the power of the opposition is once burned, twice shy
I can't avoid that in my own life, so I'm not surprised HRC is chary. But here she is, trying again ...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:43 PM
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7. I do admire her courage. She has shown enormous courage.
The woman has been slandered from the day her husband stepped on the national stage. The right-wing media attacks started immediately during the primaries in 1991. Bad hair, Tammy Wynette, lady lawyer, yankee snob, policy wonk. Newt Gingrich's mother called her a b*itch on national TV. Rush Limbaugh called her daughter a dog. She put together a national health insurance policy and the insurance companies destroyed it before it was even unveiled, and the Democrats in Congress ran for cover like the weasels they often are.

Yes, I give Hillary Clinton a lot of credit for being courageous.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:34 PM
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4. So I guess Kennedy who has worked with and talked to Obama
knows less than you.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:39 PM
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5. Ted is just trying to remain relevant -
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 09:42 PM by DURHAM D
he feels he has a better chance with a neophyte in the W.H. It is all about the power struggle. It is nothing inspirational. Ted may inspire you but his agenda has little to do with Obama. It is about Ted Kennedy.

Three of Bobby Kennedy's children have endorsed and will be campaigning with Hillary. They put out a letter today in which they said Ted and Carolyn have suggested they see Jack's legacy in Obama - Bobby's kids see their father in Hillary. Honestly, I always thought Bobby made the tougher choices and I respected him more than Jack. Guess that may be why, all of these years later, I support Hillary over Obama.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:44 PM
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8. Did you even read my post, or just the header?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:41 PM
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6. I'm voting for Edwards... Because I want true change.
Because I don't know that any Democratic candidate will be better thatn the thieves and murderers who currently have their claws in our nation.
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