MSNBC: SC- Obama 'routes' clinton. FL- Clinton 'gets most votes,' 'doesn't count.' hmmm.

first of all, of course the florida delegate situation makes a difference in how the results should be reported, but MSNBC repeated the word 'route' many many times when obama won SC. clinton will apparently be beating obama by 20+ points in a large, very diverse, battle-ground state, and the description by MSNBC is 'clinton gets most votes,' 'non-victory.' i know this is basically a 'sky is blue' post, as the clinton hating of the MSM is well known, bit it still bugs me.

media and vote for John Edwards.

There. Problem solved.

Why is that hard for you to understand? You should have known that going in to tonight.

there will be no bounce whatsoever from a significant victory in a major battleground state? look, of course it's a victory for hillary, regardless of the delegates, and if obama folks want to change the tone, they can be honest about the fact that if the results were reversed, obama would be claiming it as a huge victory.

First the word is "rout" not "route", secondly the votes don't count so no reason to really take interest in it.

I congratulate Hillary on her win there, but I am not really sure why or how she expected to get a lot of positive media coverage. Even though she stuck to the letter of the rules, it looks as if she broke the spirit of the rules - and people see that. It makes her campaign look desperate. It also makes people angry that she was attempting to play it as a giant victory - when there has been no campaigning there.

Most of the vast majority of primary voters cast their ballots before the Iowa Caucuses. Yet, despite that fact Hillary still failed to surpass Obama's margin of victory in SC, even though she had all the advantages. Even John Edwards is coming out with at least 15%. Hillary by all accounts should have as much as 60% of the vote - maybe even as much as 75% of the vote.

If you look past the popular vote, and at the exit polls and at the deeper information in context of the race - it doesn't look that good.

I actually think this campaign stunt will hurt her on February 5th.

Doesn't meet the canidate, even when they are in town. They fly in, they fly out. Only the die hards or those that just happen to be there, gets to met them.

the Average Voter gets their 'ideas' from the media and talking to others. The canidates might not have been down here in person. But they have been on the airwaves. They are being talked about on the radio, etc.

Let's not forget the debates, they were aired down here as well.

Speaking of, talked to an independent tonight about the democratic canidates. Seen the debate racently and turned it off, disgusted after about 45 minutes. Wanted to know what they would do for him and country. Instead he felt they wasted time trashing each other.

So who says there wasn't no campaigning? The voters liked it that they were not called constantly or got tons of junk mail. Big story down here is about how volunteer workers were able to acess phone numbers, etc from a web site to make calls. People were concerned about their privacy, etc. Of course, we are talking about the Republican campaigns that got caught with that one. Since their delegetes were going to be counted, they made some effort for the votes down here.

not when you win 0 delegates from a utterly flawed Primary result

It shows where Florida's support goes.

He is being very short sighted to just ignore the Florida primary. He just blew off his supporters and everyone who did come out and voted for him tonight. Effort was wasted. ???

After the Primaries, he has to deal with the Florida Voters. He still needs the support of the workers to get out there and get the vote.

It's one thing to KNOW the delegetes are not going to be counted. It's another thing to blow it off publicly as Florida doesn't matter.

As a person who generally gets involved in the election process to get democrates elected, that kind of , well. aghm.. It would make a difference on wither I'm killing my self on a certain day in November for him... or helping out a local canidate or a state canidate.

Some body has GOT to tell that man that! After the Primarys, he still has to come back to all the states to win the general election. Best not to be burning bridges.

it's quite obvious; olberman just had to stop himself in the middle of saying 'wo(n)--' and switch to 'got the most votes.' i mean, think what you will about the results, but this kind of *deliberate* downplaying of a sizeable victory in a large battleground state is a bit much.

Clinton won an endorsement in the florida polls....