The Thing Is... McCain wins his votes on his personality. Hillary loses on hers.

For all the talk of Obama being suspect simply because he is a great orator and inspires people, at least he is generally (by most RATIONAL people) to be likable.

By and large, like it or not, Hillary tends to not be liked very much -relatively speaking. It's what people SAY about her.

McCain is crusty and curmudgeony. He is a war "hero" and people view his as a "tell it like it is" guy.

Hillary, on the other hand...

Bill her best asset. When people who lean her way (or not) say "Can Hillary handle the job?" They invariably say to themselves "Well, if anything goes wrong, at least Bill is there to clean up the mess."

Old Jewish guy from New York. He is a Hillary supporter. But it took literally 5 seconds to determine his real reason for going for Hil. Cause of Bill.

It's an open secret.

serious question

What gave him away, pray tell?

Plus I asked him to whip out his dick to check.

Most people, even here on DU agree that Hillary can handle the job.

On issues of likeability?

In the eyes of the beholder.

which people?

why not just write "some say" and join the Fox News Team?

I can only conclude you are going "La la la la la la" as you type with your toes while your index fingers are stuck in your ears.

It's a stupid fight. Either you will admit the flaws of your candidate or you will engage in a mindless pretense.

Your OP doesn't happen to reflect her actual flaws

Republicans hate her. The MSM hates her. The actual liberal press hates her. Independents largely hate her. Even a good number of dems hate her. And that will only spread. If she wins, she wins chiefly on name recognition, Bill memories, an effective political machine and hype.

"the clintons" have done three times before. two elections and an attempted removal.

one bridge after another. When people like Simon Rosenberg speak out, it's indicative of a BIG problem.

so i've begun to like her, but then bill (who i used to adore) stepped in and opened his big mouth. now i feel like i don't want to see him as "first gentleman".

hillary is not my #1 choice. obama is, but if she is the nominee i will support her 100%.

I heard someone even call him "bitchy."

I don't have a problem with a man supporting his candidate spouse. Women are always expected to do it as a matter of course. A man does exactly the same thing and the country has a coronary. So it isn't just the role of president we have defined by sex.

But sexism is okay, only racism is bad.

criticize the other candidates. i don't mind him supporting his wife, but he's gone a bit too far. and i don't appreciate his comparing obama to jesse jackson.

jesse jackson ran as a black man. obama is running as a man who just happens to be half black and half white.

Okay, I am stunned by the racism in "i don't appreciate his comparing obama to jesse jackson. jesse jackson ran as a black man. obama is running as a man who just happens to be half black and half white."

So you would NOT vote for Obama if he weren't half white? So there is something wrong with comparisons to other men who are black? Is this what Obama's support is made of? Racists who are applauding themselves for their...what? Acceptance of Obama's black half along with his white half?

If it will comfort you, Obama damn well did run as a black man in South Carolina. But I expect it wouldn't. Oh, my word. You have literally knocked the breath out of me. I have seen many prejudices in my life, but racism so naked and so unconscious in so few lines...I really can't let this go.

"Hillary will never beat McLame in the general. Just won't happen..."

to which you responded

"I pray you are right and I am wrong"

I must have strayed into the Twilight Zone...

Of COURSE i am for Hilliary is she is the candidate.

You people are fucked up in the head. Go get some air, Bottom Feeders.

female Independents and even Republicans, and because women comprise 54% of the electorate.

She got over 75% of the women's vote in NY, doing very well even in the "red" parts of the state. Because of her strength among women, she pulled in more than 60% overall.

If she gets to the general election in November, women will push her over the top.

That was McCain's platform essentially. Scarborough pointed this out, laughing at the irony that in a year when an unpopular war is a huge issue and the economy an even bigger one, that a candidate who does nothing for the economy and promises to be in Iraq for a hundred years is going to win the Republican nimination.

People say they want one thing.

They vote for something else.

I have no faith in the voting public. None.

he's also a cheater....
an angry person....

and likes to flirt all the time....

scenario, and we see how well THAT turned out. (Bush)

This is the problem I see in American politics...people are looking to be entertained, not informed.

I, for one, am not looking to be entertained. I'm looking to be educated.

You know what inspires me and gives me goosebumps?

Listening to Sen. Clinton, talking about ending the war on science, and stopping the muzzling of government scientists.

Listening to Sen. Clinton talk about how, as President, she'll ask Congress to send her the stem cell legislation that they passed but Bush vetoed.

Listening to Sen. Clinton talk about actually hiring qualified people to serve in government positions (no more "heck of a job Brownie" incidents).

Listening to her talk about having a Civil Rights Division in our Justice Department, that once again actually enforces the nation's civil rights laws.

Listening to Sen. Clinton talk about how she forced the Pentagon to have a closed-door session with her, so she could find out what, if any, type of post-war planning they were doing for Iraq.

And even listening to Chelsea Clinton explain to students that the type of health insurance she needs as a 27-year old single woman, is not the same type of health insurance THEY might need, and that's why her mother wants to open up the Congressional health plan to all Americans, so they can have choices.

In other words....the Clintons have made me a policy wonk. I'm so proud of Sen. Clinton for putting her proposals out there, and explaining to the American people exactly where she wants to take this country.

health care plan. She's a great campaigner for her mom.

I thought this was DEMOCRATIC Underground. If you're so fond of McCain and his "personality," perhaps another site might be more appropriate for your musings. Just a thought.

They'll stay away in droves. Independents are not siding with the republicans with all the country going down the tubes.

McCain is toast.

he's an american hero, but we will always be in a war with someone if he is prez.

remember, people liked bush. said they wanted to have a beer with him. look what happened.

BTW. i never felt like i wanted to have a beer with him. i didn't like him from day #1.


and no, i'm not a freeper. you can have respect for a republican without voting for them.

Sorry if it hurt you.

That was Hillary's quip in the same debate.

;)

Never forget!

McCain is more likable than Clinton.

Rethugs will always dump on our candidates. When Dems dislike her, it is because of her positions, or the person's misogyny, but not because there is anything wrong with her personally.

They say McCain has no chance. Funny how things work

Those few people who don't like the Clinton's mistakenly believe that everybody feels the way they do . But this is a delusion, as most people like the Clintons just fine.

lied to.