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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:03 AM
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Obamas communications director on the Florida results
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:20 AM by wlucinda
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/29/fl.primary/index.html

Robert Gibbs, communications director for Obama campaign, downplayed the Florida results and got a dig in at Clinton.

"Mike Gravel is going to get the same number of delegates as Clinton," Gibbs said, referring to the former Alaska senator who has yet to earn a single percentage point in earlier contests.

Gibbs said he thought the results would have little effect on the race heading into Super Tuesday.

"You can't gain momentum in a state that everyone but Hillary Clinton pledged not to campaign in," Gibbs said.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:04 AM
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1. Gibbs is a liar.
Obama aired ads in Florida.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:06 AM
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3. Yep. And Hillary was part of the agreement. Liar x 2.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:07 AM
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5. Clinton attended a fundraiser.
All the candidates did and that was not part of the agreement.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:10 AM
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8. I know...I was referring to his statement that she wasn't part of the pledge.
"everyone but Hillary Clinton pledged not to campaign in"

Which is a lie.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:11 AM
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10. I understand now.
Thanks.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:23 AM
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21. I re-read it twice when I spotted the story at CNN.
:) I couldn't believe he would say something like that.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:18 AM
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41. The Obama Campaign will say anything to Win...
I wonder how Ted and Caroline view Obama's campaign's propensity for Lying with such ease?

Poor JFK, he must be spinning!
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:13 AM
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35. she didn't break the agreement, as you know. nt
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:13 AM
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34. yep, and people wonder why obama supporters are getting such a bad reputation. nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:05 AM
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2. Hillary's 850,000 votes is more than Obama got in Iowa, Nevada, NH & SC combined
You can downplay it, but you can't discount it's effect.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:07 AM
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4. holy crap is that right?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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13. I think so
Go check yourself. They said 100,000 participated in Nevada. He got about 50k then. He got 300k in SC. He got 100k in NH. And then there's Iowa - I don't remember the participation rate, but it couldn't equal 400,000 votes!!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:24 AM
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22. Yep...
853,826...as of...now.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:07 AM
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6. I wonder if the other ballots are in those totals (provisional, absentee)
I hadn't run the numbers on the other totals. Good to see!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:25 AM
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24. No, they are not in yet.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:29 AM
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30. Thanks! Should be a nice extra chunk. I hope there is enough for JE
that his pulls him up to 15% at least. Last I looked he was just shy of 15%.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:29 AM
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29. Wait till we get on the ground.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:32 AM by ingin
"A Clinton supporter, U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, said about 2.5 million voters cast ballots in the Democratic primary. About 400,000 of those voters cast early or absentee ballots, state election officials said".


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/29/fl.polls.dems/?iref=mpstoryview

I wonder how many of those voters wish they had a second shot, or maybe a little more time to think about it.

Wait, wasn't that why their delegates were taken away, by the DNC?

Clinton 856,944

Obama 568,930

And Clinton needed AFSCME to front it's street opps to get it.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:30 AM
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31. Did you add Florida into that count? nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:37 AM
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32. no
That wasn't my point.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:10 AM
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7. They all pledged not to campaign
WTF is he talking about?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:11 AM
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9. Yup.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:24 AM
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38. Obama is the one
who broke the rules by running TV ads. That's campaigning.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:28 PM
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43. Yup. He seems to have overlooked that fact. :)
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:12 AM
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11. Obama vote = Vote Against Racism ! NOT!!!!
If you read between the lines here, Obama’s saying that if he hadn’t won South Carolina it wouldn’t have been a “shift” in racial politics. Which means that a vote for him is a vote against racism, right? Which means that Obama’s playing the racial politics game even as he pretends like he’s not.

If Obama wasn’t playing racial politics, he’d be answering questions about his race by saying that South Carolinians had simply chosen the best candidate, regardless of race. But he didn’t say that. He said that by choosing him, South Carolinians absolved
themselves or their racial sins of the past.

Obama a bigger putz then I first thought....

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:17 AM
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15. Shelby Steele said that race is a factor...
that Obama would inject.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:12 AM
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12. Your link isn't working
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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14. Thanks. It was on the primary index. I'll track it down.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:18 AM
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16. Here it is:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/29/fl.primary/index.html
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:20 AM
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18. Thanks for finding it
And what a stupid thing to say.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:22 AM
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20. I was missing the "l" from the ending .html
Must of dropped it when I copied the link.
I agree. Wasn't a smart thing to say at all.

Thanks again for letting me know about the link! :hi:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:24 AM
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23. Well, unlike most it seems
I do like to read the links. :)
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:25 AM
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25. Me too.
:D
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:19 AM
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17. "Gravel is going to get the same number of delegates"
Why antagonize the people of Florida? He realizes these delegates are going to be seated, right? He realizes they're assigned proportionally, right? That it's not winner take all? So pissing off delegates and the people of Florida aids Obama how, exactly? This is his COMMUNICATIONS director? Good golly!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:27 AM
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27. I think his comments showed poor judgment from start to finish.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:27 AM by wlucinda
And welcome to DU! :hi:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:21 AM
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19. Robert Gibbs....
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:22 AM by 1corona4u
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:30 PM
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44. That's scary!
:wow:
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Tom Strong Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:26 AM
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26. "POP!" goes the weasel! n/t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:27 AM
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28. As an Obama supporter I will say he was wrong to say that
It's factually not accurate. Now will the Clinton supporters admit when Hillary's campaign does the same kind of thing? Perhaps the Obama campaign realizes they have to start playing dirty too and fudge the truth.

I wish both sides would cut it out.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:15 AM
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36. agreed. nt
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:12 AM
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33. when did hillary campaign there? what a liar. nt
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:01 AM
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39. He was definitely a little short on the facts.
:D
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:16 AM
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37. Well, its good spin, problem is the media attention to Clinton
Super Tuesday just go ahead and pencil in Clinton at this point.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:13 AM
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40. Gibbs = liar
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM
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42. Or stupid. And neither is a very good thing.
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