The Primary System Officially Sucks

Here it isn't even Super Tuesday and what, we have 2 choices left?

thanks for giving us so much to choose from

what a ridiculous waste of time

I will go write in Gore

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of course in the general

i'll hold my nose and vote for one of them

but fuck all

why can't we keep the candidates in long enough for the majority of Americans to have a say on?

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not to mention the positioning of candidates by MSM - little remains to even the appearance of democracy, or any real choices by the time it comes to John Q. Public to vote. It really stinks.

And why the hell should Iowa, New Hanpshire and South Carolina be deciding who is going to be president for the rest of us? I have a big problem with that.

To make matters worse the Super Delegates who are mostly our elected officials have enough votes to overthrow any candidate the people vote on anyways. So does our participation in this madness really matter at all?

How come we can't have one national primary day?

to have something like that

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I live in Ohio, a far more important state than any of those, and won't get a chance to cast a ballot for Kucinich and Edwards.

Nice of those idiots to decide that progressives aren't viable!

all those little states shouldn't be deciding for the rest of us

and i live in a small state too

And they decide who we get to choose from. What a system. Seems like everything is set up by the repukes. The two states with the highest Dem representation, MI and FL, won't even be counted and had crappy, non-representative primaries to boot.

We need to hold our own primaries separate from the republicans. Give Oregon, Washington, The Northeast, ANYBODY BUT THE RED STATES an early say. And I say this knowing that JE probably still would have been shut out. But at least the average Democratic party member would have been heard.

better, plus it needs to be about the voter not the party. Case in point what happened in Florida is rediculous. A populous state should not get its knuckles rapped by the party for trying to change this rediculous primary schedule which enmhasizes a couple of small states that do not represent the rest of the country. Don't even get me started on the media disaster
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I know he did a lot of good a long time ago - but not in this decade.

We really are told who we can and can't vote for, this needs to be changed and soon. It's like drinking down stream beer, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Peace!

last year it was May before I had a primary

this year Feb 5

but it still makes NO DAMNED DIFFERENCE because all we have are corporatist vs. corporatist now

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I was a Richardson supporter then an Edwards and now I will pull the lever for Obama.
I am not in love with him but I do believe he can win the general against McCain.
If Hillary gets the Nod she gets my vote.
I am saddened by Edwards withdrawal as well..But life goes on..It must

I dread what will happen to him in the following months

the GOP will shred him they'll shred Hillary

I'm worried man

I want a progressive Dem

I think I'll get nothing I want now

Oh well

McCain will be hard to beat against anybody.
I want a progressive dem as well..I just don't think it is in the cards right now

its the fucked up primary system man

but criticism for even suggesting it!

before I get a chance to vote. Why bother. They leave us the scraps. The choices of these dinky states was not necessarily the choices the big states would have chosen.

it is appalling to me

DELEGATES.

I honestly don't see enough difference in the other two to do any differently... though Hillary's not voting for that Energy bill though Obama did is ALMOST enough.

Edwards will get my vote

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typically the presumptive nominee is clear prior to super Tuesday

we should have more people who get to make that choice

but the bobsy twins Hillary and Obama

the corporatist candidates

you should write in Edwards. :)

he's got my vote

I personally think it's good for the primary season to start in small states with inexpensive media markets like Iowa and perhaps New Hampshire. It gives campaigns that may not have a lot of money to get their legs on and improve their message and organization.

Some want to start the season in big expensive media market states like California, New York or Florida. That would knock out more candidates that need to get started.

The February 5th clusterf*ck with so many huge states all over the country is horrible. Speeches are done on airport tarmac stages and people don't get to get right in the thick of a campaign and see just how strong a candidate is.

The primary season should extend all the way to June with those states still having a say in the choice.

how about a representation of all areas of the country early on

even if it is not Cali or NY

just so we get a different idea than a bunch of Iowans and New Hampshire residents views

Where do you live?

I most certainly don't trust the opinions of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina to decide things for me.

We should all vote on ONE day.

just getting to Nevada. They are cash strapped before they get to Super Tuesday. How is spreading out the primary season going to cut down on the need of wringing cash out of the special interests. ? Its already too long . What we need. A natonal Primary. Publically funded campaigns and free air time, without the media determining who gets to speak, as long as the FEC says a candidate demonstrates sufficient support, we get to hear from all candidates. Then we will have democracy.

I think you'll see a lot of votes for Edwards come Super Tuesday

i hope so too

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:cry:

:hug:

Maybe there can be brokering...

In other news, my daughter wants Hillary Clinton.

your daughter is a corporatist?

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i mean

that girl

but she is insistent in a way that only 6 year olds can be.

j/k

my son 7, has no idea about politics

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Don't worry about it, though. Voters don't have any control over it any longer, parties just a little bit.

Am I right in assuming that there are still fifty stars on our flag? I haven't even had the opportunity to vote in the primary yet and already my choices are down to two. Why is this fair? Sorry, It reminds me of back in the 1980 presidential election when I hadn't even voted yet and already the MSM was declaring a winner. They wonder why people don't believe that their votes count?
I supported Edwards and I am saddened and shocked at his dropping out of the race before I could even cast my vote-for him. Give us Edwards supporters some time to grieve and then as for me, I will attempt to make a wise and informed choice from the two candidates that are remaining. :dilemma: :dilemma: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts:

the illusion of choice coupled with the illusion of history. Four states have voted and two of them were caucuses, by my math that leaves 46 states left to cast a vote and yet because of the cost of campaign television advertising, we're down to two candidates, coincidently the two most corporate loving candidates in the lot. I suspect we'll continue this trend of becoming serfs to the corporate super citizens in the land of the free, no matter who wins.

better, plus it needs to be about the voter not the party. Case in point what happened in Florida is rediculous. A populous state should not get its knuckles rapped by the party for trying to change this rediculous primary schedule which enmhasizes a couple of small states that do not represent the rest of the country. Don't even get me started on the media disaster