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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:33 PM
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O! Holy Night! "I believe in coercive diplomacy." SOUND BITE OF THE NITE!!!
:woohoo:

Oh, so many uses.

- Dave
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:38 PM
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1. I heard that real loud too!! n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:43 PM
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2. Inconvenient Facts about Her Connections...
... as "coercive diplomacy."

OH MY GOD!

So that's how they shake down library donors: "coercive diplomacy," which she fully supports.

- Dave
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:48 PM
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4. "Bombing the fuck out of them" didn't play well in the focus group

Neither did "shake them down or it's blackmail time."

Coercive diplomacy was the best she could do on short notice.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:53 PM
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9. Bombing the fuck out of them ALWAYS plays well in focus groups.
Doesn't even deviate when you change who "them" is.
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:13 PM
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14. Hmmmm, you may be right
We'll know better next week - just watch and see if Ms. Corporate uses it on the stump.

Or is that while talking to a guy WITH a stump.

Where his leg used to be.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 PM
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28. Touche.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:37 PM
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22. Pretty Library, Who Was Your Contractor?
"Coercive Diplomacy, Inc."

- Dave
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:44 PM
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3. Is that like coercive truth?
Please don't waterboard me....
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:51 PM
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6. That's Coercive Dunktanking!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:54 PM
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10. !
:spray: :scared:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:08 PM
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13. LOL...


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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:48 PM
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5. slimey!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:52 PM
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8. It Was Worth Listening to Her ...
... for that soundbite alone.

Now, I need to clean my ears out with Drain-O.

- Dave
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:52 PM
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7. yes indeed. SWEET. Isn't that sort of an oxymoron?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:57 PM
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11. I Plan to Make It ...
... the motto of a soon-to-launch website.

- Dave
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:01 PM
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12. or a steampunk band
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 10:01 PM by cryingshame
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:53 AM
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35. !
:thumbsup:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:17 PM
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15. Coercive diplomacy sure beats Obama's comment in last
debate that he would do a "preemptive strike" on anyone threatening us. It went unreported or commented on by the MSM but he said. It is not the first time.

Preemptive strike policy = George Bush. Coercive diplomacy = Clinton and Carter.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:23 PM
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17. That has always
been US policy. The problem is a the 'clear and present danger' part.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:24 PM
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18. Coercive diplomacy is great.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:42 PM
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25. I said nothing at all about "Coercive"
Diplomacy.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:24 PM
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19. You could not be more wrong - unless you
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 10:25 PM by DURHAM D
consider 2003 the beginning of our history.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:39 PM
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23. "Clear and Present Danger"...
it is the 'interpretation' of the phrase. In other words, these days, if a couple of Patagonian natives get in their canoe and row out towards a US destroyer the Bush interpretation is that 'we can fire on them'. In the past it would have to be a Soviet tank looking at us across Check-point Charlie in Berlin, lowering the muzzle of his cannon, having locked and loaded it, with his finger on the trigger. That never happened but that would have been an example of "Clear and Present Danger" by every other administration in this country's history. "And" our reaction would have been local and specific not an outright war.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 PM
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27. What year did the Cuban missle crisis take place? n/t
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:19 PM
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31. We did not do a preemptive strike.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 11:20 PM by DURHAM D
We used strong diplomacy.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:20 AM
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33. We would have if the missiles were not removed. n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:27 PM
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36. .
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:36 AM
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34. The History on That: We Pulled out OUR Missiles, Secretly
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cuban+missile+crisis+turkey+italy">As more docs become declassified, the mythos grows more complex.

- Dave
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:21 PM
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16. Zoiks!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 PM
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20. Made My Hair Stand up...
... and my heart palpitate.

:rofl:

- Dave
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:37 PM
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21. Reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt: "Speak softly and carry a big stick"
"As Governor of New York Teddy Roosevelt fought with the party bosses, who threatened, to "ruin" him if he didn't cooperate with appointements. In the end the boss gave in.

Nathan Miller in his book "Theodore Roosevelt, A Life", page 337, writes

"Looking back upon his handling of the incident, Roosevelt thought he 'never saw a bluff carried more resolutely through to the final limit.' And writing to a friend a few days later, he observed: 'I have always been fond of the West African proverb: "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." ' "

This proverb popularly attributed to Roosevelt served him well in his presidency."

Source: http://tinyurl.com/rknl

:hi:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 PM
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29. As Facts and Datasets Go...
... some logs are bigger than others.

:hi:

- Dave
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:41 PM
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24. is that like jumbo shrimp and military intelligence?
I'm getting hungry,

and angry.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:15 PM
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30. Here...
... have some cocktail sauce, and some PGP, pre-key.

- Dave
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:43 PM
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26. I'm lovin' both candidates tonight...... but tomorrow will tackle this...
"coercive diplomacy"
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:24 PM
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32. Thanks...
... and looking forward to your insights.

- Dave
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