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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 PM
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RealClearPolitics: Civil debate, Clinton won
RealClearPolitics is calling it for Clinton:



January 31, 2008
Quick Post-Debate Notes
Posted by BLAKE DVORAK


1. Compared to the Republicans last night, this was a tea party -- sorely below expectations and hype, but not bad on substance. When Wolf responded to Clinton's answer on her Iraq vote that she might have been "naive" to trust President Bush, it was a last-ditch effort to get some sparks flying.

2. Best Hillary line: "It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush, and it looks like it will take another Clinton to clean up after this one."

3. Best Obama line: "If you look at what spent, I don't think he's gotten a very good return on investment."

4. Immigration. You could tell that both are looking toward the general election, but still feel the tug of the base and Hispanic voters toward the more liberal position. So what we got from both was a commitment to some sort of vague comprehensive plan. Even with his immigration sins among conservatives, McCain could win a debate on this issue pretty easily right now.

5. Compared to the GOP debate, almost nothing about California issues. Clinton holds a good lead right now, so it might have been better for Obama to address some local matters.

6. Winner? Probably Clinton, who didn't make any noticeable gaffes. Obama didn't go on the attack as much as I thought he would, but that's not to say he should have.

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/01/quick_postdebate_notes.html
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:50 PM
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1. Didnt even mention Iraq in the anaylsis. Sorry, disagree.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:55 PM
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Best line? Examine the actual CLEANING SERVICE Bill did for Poppy Bush.
IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning matters weren't swept under the oval office rug for nothing.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

How do people think we ended up with Bush2?

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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:51 PM
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2. Clintons BIGGEST gain is likability factor, She wins on issues already!
She needs to be likable and she SHOWED SHE IS TONIGHT!
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:54 PM
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3. Called for her because she didn't make any gaffes, and Obama didn't go on the attack?
Sheesh, real solid criteria there. :eyes:
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:57 PM
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5. Obama helped nip in the bud a mini likability crisis by being so gracious tonight
That will serve him well, clearing the decks for him to restore the focus to his positive message
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:55 PM
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4. Not a huge fan of that HRC line, since I've already heard it before from her. OTOH,
I'm guessing many viewers didn't, and it's a nice turnabout of the the "dynasty" argument.
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