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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:07 PM
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Think about where this country was when Bill Clinton took office.
Think about where the country was when he left office.
Think about where the country is now.
Then just think.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:09 PM
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1. It was on the North American continent then. It's still there now.
What's you're point?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:14 PM
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5. Is this really the America you want for your children?
EIGHT years of repression and extortion, lying and dying for the almighty dollar, I could go on, but I hope you get the point.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:17 PM
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9. I want a Democratic president this year. I'd rather we nominate somebody other than HRC
This time we can win with a non-DLC candidate.

Chill.

We're not working at cross-purposes.

(I was just having some fun with a literal interpretation of your question. Sort of like Robin Williams' quotation of Reagan saying "Where would this country be without this great land of ours"?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:20 PM
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15. No problem, I knew better
:hi:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:11 PM
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2. Since Obama became a legend/sensation that's all been conveniently
forgotten. See the above post for example.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:12 PM
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3. Its not 1992. Its 2008. Different world, different times. No comparison.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:14 PM
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4. But then how do you compare Obama with JFK or MLK?
You can't have it both ways. Or can you?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:14 PM
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6. Zing.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:18 PM
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12. Go zing yourself.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:19 PM
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14. You can't have it both ways & you got called on it.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:24 PM
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17. Listen, dipwad.. I NEVER compared Obama to anyfuckingbody. The OP did. For your
information, I was an Edwards supporter. And divisive and twisted bullshit like this is why I will NEVER EVER support Hillary Clinton. This is exactly the kind of crap Mark Penn does and that her supporters like YOU do that drives people away in droves. I warmed up to her last night, but thank you SO much for reminding me of why I despise everything she stands for. You do her NO good here, none.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:26 PM
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19. You are just so nasty and mean. Glad we don't share a candidate.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:29 PM
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20. Only thing you'll be sharing is a ringside seat to McCain's inaugural after your divisive campaign
drives away over half of the Democratic party. Keep it up.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:30 PM
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21. Oh Lordy.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:58 PM
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33. that needs to happen like yesterday..
it's time for the progressive wing of the party to defect. nothing will change until that happens.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:33 PM
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23. So you won't be voting for her if she wins the nomination?
Thanks for playing.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:59 PM
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34. laugh it up..
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 07:00 PM by frylock
we're irrelevant now, but when she gets her ass handed to her in the GE you rubes will be tripping over each other to blame the progressives for her loss.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:10 PM
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40. Rubes? Moi?
You are a class act.



Thanks for playing :smoke:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:56 PM
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24. Funny that.
You and your behavior and all the rest of your hateful Obama buddies...sent me directly to Hillary. I could very easily have put aside my dislike for your guy, but with supporters like YOU and your cohorts, not a chance in hell. Good job.:thumbsup:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:18 PM
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10. I didn't. You're talking about two different things at any rate, for gods sakes.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:16 PM
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7. I have no gripes whith Bill.....but I don't want 16 years of clintons and
dlc..
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:18 PM
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11. Then what do you do with your vote if it comes down to Clinton vs. McCain
Punt?

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:12 PM
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26. I would vote for anyone who gets the nomination..I would prefer it
be obama..
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:13 PM
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29. Thank you, that is all that matters. Personal preferences aside.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:08 PM
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39. THAT is fucking disgusting
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:16 PM
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8. It was a good eight years
now if we could just do it without

a) The repukes taking congress back in the first midterm

b) an impeachment trial

c) without NAFTA and WTO and all that nonsense

d) all those bubbles (like the banking reforms that led to todays deflating housing bubble and the then stock market bubble and so on)

e) all the other scandals and constant investigations (direct result from #1)

Ok, I've thought about it. BTDT. Got the worthless tech stock and no job to prove it.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:19 PM
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13. It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:14 PM
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30. It takes a Clinton to clean up FOR Bushes


Bill Clinton deep-sixed all the serious matters outstanding in the BCCI report he was handed when he took office.

He would NOT facilitate access to documents for IranContra and Iraqgate's ongoing investigations that had long been stonewalled by both Reagan and Bush administrations.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Many of us THOUGHT a Democratic president would CARE about the historic record and the truth.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:22 PM
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16. China & India trade in full swing
Banking industry deregulated. Welfare security net removed. Ski developments on previously protected land. No energy policy. No climate change policy. No global labor policy.

I am thinking of where this country was when Bill Clinton left office and how Bush was able to use all Bill's policies to take us where we are now.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:25 PM
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18. I'm thinking!
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:30 PM
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22. Beautifully done, but someone will find fault and nitpick




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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:02 PM
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36. your cut n paste skills are unstoppable!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:11 PM
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25. BushInc was CORNERED by honest Dems who pursued IranContra, BCCI, Iraqgate
He expected to be impeached when BCCI report was released in Dec 1992 - so he ran the worst campaign ever.

Bill came in and DEEP-SIXED that BCCI report. He did the same with all the outstanding matters that were ongoing in IranContra and Iraqgate.

Protecting Bush's secrecy and privilege throughout the 90s led DIRECTLY to the emergence of Bush2, 9-11, this Iraq war, and will lead to war with Iran.

ALL Bill had to do was LET the investigations that had Bush cornered continue and cooperate by facilitating the access to documents he had as president.

He did not. THAT is why the whole damn bunch of thugs were able to grow stronger throughout the 90s while government has been getting CLOSED OFF to the citizenry.

GET REAL about what actually happened. Every GOOD thing you claim happened was reversed within a year by Bush2. Every WRONG thing he did will last for GENERATIONS.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:12 PM
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27. Too bad Clinton did NOTHING about Iran/Contra criminals, Election Fraud, oh fuck it
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:13 PM
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28. I'm thinking.....OK, you've convinced me. We need another Clinton in the White House.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 05:13 PM by sparosnare
And Bill right along with her. It's the only way this country will survive. :eyes:

Those people who are voting for Hillary just because Bill is part of the package - blah!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:14 PM
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31. The only problem is that Hillary isn't Bill.
But then she'll get pointers from him, I'm sure! :)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:16 PM
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32. Think on this
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:03 PM
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37. If I dipped my hair in peroxide, it'd get all yellow and straw in color...
'course, it might all fall out too...
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:03 PM
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38. THAT'S WHY WE MUST VOTE FOR OBAMA
VOTE OBAMA
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:10 PM
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41. Bill's running again?
I had no idea.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:11 PM
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42. Hillary is no Bill
End of statement.
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