BARACK OBAMA IS A EGOTISTICAL/DIVISIVE MARK ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

I am thoroughly incensed and disgusted with his campaign strategy to scare voters (like the republicans do)against Universal Health Care.

He will do anything, to get in the Oval Office. He has absolutely no regard for democratic principles, he only has regard for himself. If he wins the primaries you can kiss Universal Health care away. It will never become a reality because of the tactics he uses to scare voters into voting for him.

This is the lowest tactic I have seen used in this campaign, thus far. One of our own losing our chance at Universal Health Care so he can be president. He only cares about himself. If he really cared about the American people, he would have never sunk this low. He will never be able himself to pass anything close to Universal Health Care himself because he created an ad that any good ole republican would have produced about him. He has become one of them on this issue. He caved for votes and who loses, the American people lose.

Hillary was right when she said she would fight for us on this. I guess he was just giving us some false hopes.

Well I hope the the citizens of this country who hope for Universal Health Care won't be short changed and wake up to these tactics.

Their plans are 95% the same

That's why the Right Wing Loves him (and GWB).
They're soft marks
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?em&ex=1202101200&en=f2853a7f59384438&ei=5087%0A

Because I read today that Obama would go for the mandate too. He's just being dishonest about it now.

Universal health care can't happen without a mandate. If we want success after the election, the voters must hear the truth before.

have a mandate

mandates for everybody.

There are a couple of concerns about that approach. One is the problem of "adverse selection." Sicker people - or people with a greater likelihood of becoming sick - will enroll. That will drive plan costs up, making it prohibitively expensive.

"Let's look at the level of coverage you can get without a mandate. Our estimates, based on studies in the literature, is that we can get 98% or 99% coverage without a mandate for adults. There may be some small pockets of people who choose not to buy it."

What about those people?

"If there are free riders, Obama is open to mandates. But what he is saying is 'Look, mandates seem like a panacea, but that's not where the hard work needs to be done.' Auto insurance is a mandate, too, and not everyone has that. You've got to prove to the public that you're willing to do the hard work.'"


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Universal health coverage means everyone is covered. You can't cover everyone without making it a requirement that they participate in the program. Without that requirement, its not universal.

Obama just chose to take a good progressive concept and stick a negative label on it. Obama is, in essence, trying to kill universal health care.

being cured of "The Gay"?

Obama! Why hast thou forsaken me?

to push through than HRC's mess.

Single payer is just a method for paying for the program. Believe me, a single payer system won't be free either.

That Obama and his supporters would rather kill our chances for health care reform to score political points is beneath contempt.

And turn away many independents and conservative democrats. I would say HRC is the divisive one.

I am thoroughly incensed and disgusted with your type spamming the boards with your garbage.

Thanks for the tip.

Hiya, Jeff.

With all these dangerous politicians afoot, we should probably just all stay indoors!


:hi: :dem:

I'd lock up my daughter, if I had one.:hi:

....and HRC... whose whole campaign is based on triangulation... is a unifying force...


Like Bill Cosby says.... rrrriiiiiiggggghhhhhhtttt!

...is there any back-up there? I highly doubt it. "Millions" is a large figure in the first place, and Obama is certainly not responsible for the Dem build-up this year. Bush is.

but yet these new voters, especially the youth vote will not vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination............

what a uniter rrrrriiiiiggggghhhhhhttttt

n/t

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I don't think they heard you in Siberia...

because if our ticket wins the White House, the veep nom will preside over the Senate which ultimately will be "the decider" of any legislation offering meaningful health care reform.

No matter the presidential nominee, the veep choice is absolutely critical regarding any number of pieces of key legislation.

... making an intelligent point, speaking common sense - when will you end your insane ramblings and get on-board with Hill-bashing/Obama-bashing?

It's soooooooo much more productive and constructive than seriously discussing the issues, or pointing out useless things like facts.

:hi:

I'm in a veep blues state of mind with both parties this week for some reason.

There's a lot of bad work by Bush et al we have to undo and we need a sure-footed legislator-type to steer the ship through difficult waters.


:hi: :yourock: :bluebox: :bluebox: :bluebox: :bluebox:

And I cannot help that I am truly incensed that he thinks his chance to be president is paramount to our getting Universal Health Care. I do not besmirch him fighting the good fight, but this way past the line.

graphics in the backdrop.

I guess I'd take this guy over Zell Miller, sure.

:lol:

Did you donate yet today?

and don't forget the diapers.

...please fix your bots.

That is all.

She will fight for her neolib goals, the health industry, and the investor class that supports her.

She will harm the working class and LGBTs, just as her husband did with NAFTA, Telecom Act of 1996, DOMA, and DADT.

I don't know if I should stick around for the entertainment, or just go ahead with the "ignore".

:spray:

I vote :popcorn:

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Certainly not Obama.

Maybe it's you ...

Nobody in this party has a bigger ego than Hillary "being married to a guy is all the experience I need" Clinton.

And nobody has damaged the country more than 28 years of Bush/Clinton.

1. a person, esp. an orator or political leader, who gains power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people.

although there are many other worthy contenders.

just like your candidate

Your identification of the "fear tactics " used by Obama are so on target! Yes, I didn't realize it at first but couldn't quite nail where that queezie feeling about his health plan came from...Yes! Thanks

turn it down a few notches.

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:eyes:

For you chorus of cynics...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4380948

:puke: :rofl:

Good thing we have a non-divisive candidate like Hillary in the campaign! A women with the highest negatives in the race, a women that would unify and put back together a broken Republican party single handedly!

A women who's campaign surrogates played the race card pulling a page directly from the Karl Rove playbook!

All Obama does is inspire the public and draw masses of young people into the democratic party thereby expanding the party and making it the dominate party for the next generation.

Yeah, he must be stopped at all costs!!!!:sarcasm:

That seems to be the agenda of so many Obama supporters, doesn't it. It's unfortunate because divisiveness is the last thing our Party needs. It's bad enough our country is so sharply divided.

Today, Europeans are talking about this across the pond:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-chicago-street-where-a-dangerous-secret-from-barack-obamas-past-lurks-777692.html