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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:31 PM
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Michelle Obama: "The issues facing Black America are the same ones facing rural Idaho" What?!
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:33 PM by journalist3072
Michelle Obama still doesn't get it.

I was watching an interview with her on ABC World News Tonight, and she said "The issues facing Black Amreica are the same ones facing rural Idaho."

Uh....sorry Michelle, NO THEY ARE NOT.

There are some issues very specific to Black America, that need to be addressed:

- The current African-American unemployment rate (for January 2008) is 9.2. The overall unemployment rate in this country is 4.9. That DOES NOT suggest to me that African-Americans and people in rural Idaho are being affected the same by the unemployment rate.

- According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC's) website, the number of AIDS cases in the African-American community in 2005, was 20,187. The number of cases for 2005 in the Caucasian community was 11,780.

And let's not even begin to talk about what has been done by the Supreme Court to try to dismantle affirmative action.

Lets' not talk about racial profiling.

Let's not talk about the poverty rate.

So no, Michelle Obama, the same issues affecting the African-American community are NOT necessarily the same ones affecting "rual Idaho."

Even though Michelle Obama is not the candidate and her name will not be on the ballot, this is precisely why I say that we in the African-American community CANNOT assume that one of our own, will be better at addressing our issues. Just because someone looks like me, doesn't mean they represent my interests or values.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:33 PM
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1. You would think she would know the issue at hand...But I agree with you Journalist...
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:37 PM
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2. This is exactly why I am so worried and concerned for my community right now
There are a lot of African-Americans voting based on emotion, and the belief that in order to show your racial pride, you need to vote for Barack Obama.

As an African-American, I wholeheartedly reject that notion.

We have issues that need to be addressed in our community.

And I believe Michelle Obama's comment serves as a stark reminder that African-Americans are not always the best to address African-American issues.

And I believe that goes for every group in our country.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:09 PM
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27. I guess I have to take your word that you are AA and have been selected to speak for all AA.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:38 PM
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3. SC is over, time to run colorless again....
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:52 PM
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21. They always did. Clinton saw how ineffective her strategy was with the exit polling and gave up.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:39 PM
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4. Please tell me she did not really say that
Awesome post by you, though, and I couldn't agree more with you. :thumbsup:
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:41 PM
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6. Unfortunately, yes, she did. I was stunned. And thank you for the compliment! eom
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:42 PM
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9. She said exactly that..Deborah Roberts did the interview...
Michelle will cause the same problems for candidate Obama that other spouses are accused of. Cindy McCain doesn't speak does she???( just a question-not a point)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:40 PM
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5. I live in rural VT and the unemployment rate here is nearly 8%
So it's a lot closer to the unemployment rate for the AA community than for America as a whole.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:47 PM
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16. That doesn't mean that the issues facing Black America are the same ones facing rural VT either
...does it? :shrug:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:42 PM
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7. So you endorse splitting Americans up into categories with no Common Cause. That's fucked
congratulations on coming out as such a divisive partisan.

:puke:
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:44 PM
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Come on...you know damn well that's not what I am saying. You are simply looking for an argument.
What I am saying is that while there may be some issues in common, the African-American community also has some very specific issues of its own, that need to be addressed, such as racial profiling, affirmative action, etc.

And we need a President who understands that.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:46 PM
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14. That's EXACTLY what you're saying in an attempt to trash Michelle. Not comfortable with your hate
too fucking bad.

I am pretty sure Obama and Michelle are cognizant of the unique issues facing African Americans.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:49 PM
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18. Journalist didn't say anything like that at all. Stop putting your words into jounalist's mouth
Jayeesus!!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:50 PM
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19. Yeah, Journalist kinda did. Michelle is getting bashed for claiming that rural and urban areas
overwhelmingly share the same problems--which they do.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:54 PM
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22. Journalist found fault with Michelle for saying Idaho denizens and blacks share same problems
the ONLY way to interpret that is Idaho and black Americans do NOT share similar problems.

How else could anyone find fault with what Michelle said?

You think the Obama family isn't aware of problems facing blacks?

It's inappropriate to suggest that blacks and people in Idaho share problems?


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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:58 PM
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23. It's almost like...
...people are really upset at the Obama campaign's attempt to move the discussion away from "identity" politics.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:42 PM
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8. Obviously Michelle Obama hates black people.
:shrug:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:43 PM
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10. Try thinking that through again.
You cite the OVERALL unemployment rate, compared to the unemployment rate for black people. What is it for those rural areas? A lot higher than average. Also a lot worse than the national average is poverty, drug abuse, education, and yes, AIDS too.

I live in a rural area, and I can tell you that the problems faced out here do have a lot in common with those faced by the poor, largely minority population of inner cities. It's vastly less intense out here, because of the reduced population, and a lot of the problems that come from the crowding--like gangs and gang violence--don't arise. But to blithely dismiss the connection between two types of poor, underserved communities strikes me as jumping to a bad conclusion.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:44 PM
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11. So the economy, Iraq and health care aren't on everyone's mind?
You're funny.

:rofl:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:44 PM
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12. War in Iraq... health care... the economy...
poverty... unemployment...

:shrug:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:45 PM
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13. She may be more right than wrong.
We will all have to educated our self to fit into this new world that is here. Country or city people. It is all the same. I do family history and so read many cen. reports. Let me tell you, that right now I know few carriage makers, harness makers, spinners in mills, farmers in my family and those old, 1930 and back, reports are full of those people. We all must move from the status que. Hope I sp. it all right. These eye operations are really a pain in the butt trying to read and type.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:46 PM
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15. I'm waiting for Michelle to wake up and get it. n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:49 PM
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17. She's right.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:51 PM by Occam Bandage
Health care system's in crisis. That affects everyone.
The economy is stalled. That affects everyone.
The subprime mortgage debacle affects everyone.
The thinning of the American job market affects everyone.
The war in Iraq affects everyone.
The climate affects everyone.
Gay rights affect everyone.
Education affects everyone.
Rural areas have high drug usage rates, and high unemployment rates. So do urban areas.

There are issues that are urban-specific, and issues that are rural-specific. But most issues are shared.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:52 PM
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20. 16% of Idaho County (the most rural county in ID) live below the poverty line...
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:57 PM by dmesg
... and 21% of children live below the poverty line. And unemployment is at 7%. That county's per capita income is less than $14,000. Drug abuse is an increasing problem that's leading to record incarceration rates and disrupted families. Peoples' jobs are increasingly insecure.

I'd imagine that's what she's talking about. I assume she's trying to run with Edwards' "two Americas" idea.

There's a lot of poverty and hopelessness in America's rural areas. Appalling poverty. Whole towns dying off; people with no economic prospects and no sign of getting any any time soon.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:58 PM
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24. This is WRONG!! SHE SAID IOWA, NOT IDAHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Journalist needs to correct this immediately and apologize. Michelle said "rural Iowa." I saw the interview she did on ABC and she said Iowa.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:02 PM
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25. We should not be so quick to pounce on someone over a statement like this...
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 08:03 PM by stahbrett
Just my opinion, but people of all stripes and colors seem too quick to pounce in cases like this. Isn't it more believable that Michelle Obama's intent was that "there are issues that rural Idahoans and Black Americans have in common?" Do we know what the context of the question/answer was? Was it a situation where the questions were dealing with the economy, health insurance, etc.? These people are out there giving so many speeches and interviews - is it really shocking that, on occasion, what comes out of their mouths is not exactly what they intended to say? Remember when John Kerry misspoke about Iraq and U.S. soldiers?
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:05 PM
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26. Michelle said "IOWA"!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon people
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:18 PM
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30. Sorry, was assuming the OP was accurate. n/t
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:17 PM
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28. It depends on the specific topic. I'd need to see the full quote or video nt
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:18 PM
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29. Please tell us you're not a professional journalist
:rofl: More like a fiction writer.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:23 PM
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32. Journalist is just looking for ANY reason to pounce on Obama, so she's now misquoting
Michelle said nothing about Idaho in the entire interview. And think about it, why would she even mention Idaho when she hasn't even visited there? Barack went there once, not Michelle. She said "rural Iowa." I know it can be easy to mistake the two states, but because Journalist used this inaccuracy to attack Michelle, she should come back on here and apologize and issue a correction. If she refuses, then she should provide a transcript or the interview.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:22 PM
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31. Don't you hate it when Michelle Obama doesn't play the race card?
It would be so much better if she went around saying that black Americans had absolutely nothing in common with rural Iowans.

:sarcasm:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:25 PM
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33. Rural America is economically devastated, the schools suck and it's hard to get good health care
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 08:27 PM by BeyondGeography
lots of meth labs springing up all over the place and more disaffected youth than ever.

Is that enough for you?

Beyond which, how powerful is it to have a black public figure delivering that kind of message of unity in a place like Idaho (or Iowa or wherever)? Or maybe you would prefer we keep treating each other like space aliens?
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:31 PM
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34. Well, here's one rural Idaho county picked at random
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=owyhee&_cityTown=owyhee&_state=04000US16&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010&show_2003_tab=&redirect=Y

High poverty, low academic attainment, high housing vacancy rate, how much more "ghetto" do you need it to be? I'd be willing to bet there are gang and drug problems too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:55 PM
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35. MO can be criticized as much as any OTHER candidates' spouses can be, IYKWIM.
What's good for the gander,....
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