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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:21 AM
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I'm undecided going to the polls in a few minutes
oddly, I got no robocalls telling me to vote for Obama or Clinton... were they banned? I haven't even gotten one GOTV call.

I was hoping the process would be over by now so I didn't have to make a decision - Kerry had wrapped up the nomination in 2004 by the time the CT primary rolled around.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:22 AM
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1. Vote Hillary, please. :) n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:23 AM
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2. You don't have to decide yet. You can always vote Edwards, then vote for
the nominee next fall.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:24 AM
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Obama is the only way to go! :) Seriously, regardless
of who you vote for, please vote! Let your voice be heard!
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:24 AM
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3. For the sake of our children and for
special needs children vote for Hillary Please
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:24 AM
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4. Vote Hope!
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:24 AM
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5. I'm not going to beg you to vote for my candidate.
You have to decide who you feel bests suits your needs on issues you care about. All I can tell you is that as a 24 year old this is my first primary and I woke up at 6am to vote. I just got back and I'm FIRED UP and READY to Go!! I feel so happy and proud I just want to cry.


Thanks Obama
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:26 AM
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6. Yep.
I have been undecided. Both candidates have strengths. Had John Edwards remained in the race, I was thinking ofvoting for him, to support the issues he was advocating. Now, I'm thinking that Clinton is a little stronger on some domestic issues, and Obama is stronger on international issues. I'll be heading out to vote this morning, and will make my decision by the time I reach the voting booth.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:28 AM
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7. Good luck to you, Jeff
my only advice is to vote your gut- if your gut has anything to say.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:59 AM
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27. my gut said it needed some coffee
;-)
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:28 AM
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8. It's a win-win if you like both candidates
So flip a coin. :-)
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:31 AM
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9. Do something good for the spineless Democratic party and our progressive movement
Vote Obama....
Please
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:48 AM
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18. Progressive movement?
The only Progressive in the race was Kucinich. Edwards was a close second. Of the two choices left neither is Progressive as far as I see. That's why I am having so much trouble choosing.

Hillarys IRW & Kyl/ Lieberman votes leaves me the same way Obama's offer of outreach to the Repiggies leaves me.

Without a Progressive to vote for.
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DebraK Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:37 AM
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10. Here you go
Reasons not to vote for corrupt Hillary: (besides the fact she voted for the war in Iraq, she didn't even read the bill for the war and claims the bill was about letting in inspectors even though the bill was titled "Authorisation to use military force in Iraq". She claims she didn't read the bill but asked Bush personally what it was about)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4398804&mesg_id=4398804

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4401210&mesg_id=4401210

From ABC news:

"Another war opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was second (to Ron Paul) with about $94,000. Soldiers love Ron and Barack, and lobbyists love Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the No. 1 recipient of lobbyist cash, receiving $823,000 in 2007 from the lobbying industry, which gave about $2.7 million overall."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4346457&mesg_id=4346457

Reasons to vote for Barack Obama: www.barackobama.com/issues
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:39 AM
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11. My opinion: Vote for the best chance to beat the GOP: Obama. n/t
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:40 AM
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12. I am in CT and in the same boat.
Enemeni Minimo ?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:42 AM
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13. As a mom and military vet, please consider Hillary's choice of ambition over the troops in her vote
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 07:46 AM by Windy
for the IWR and Kyl/Lieberman.

Because she didn't want to appear weak to the opposition during her presidential run, she voted to send our kids off to war without adequate equipment, armour, etc...


Don't let anyone try to argue that Obama's funding of the troops after we went in means he supported going in initially. Like many other senators who didn't vote for the war, many supported the funding as our troops are in harms way and they were sent over there with basically nothing to protect them! Hillary voted similarly on each measure.


Please remember all those that died and were maimed by this war when you go into the voting booth today... And remember that she didn't stand up and fight against Bush's unnecessary war, never acknowledged her mistake and then voted "yea" on Kyl/Lieberman and tried to spin her vote when it didn't go well for her that it was a diplomatic move.

These games are being played with our soldiers. They are not political pawns.





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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:43 AM
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14. Write in Walken!
:silly:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:21 AM
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24. You Walken babies sicken me.
:puke:

Mercer is the only candidate for change (all 3).
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:00 AM
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28. I should have filed a protest that Walken & Lee Mercer were not on the ballot
all three
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:43 AM
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15. What we need more than anything
in the next POTUS is a bona fide uniter. We cannot go on with hyperpartisanism. I know most of us can't stand the Republicans, but we're stuck in a rut and the tires are spinning. Hillary is more than qualified for the job, but she will be a divider. Please consider voting for Barack.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:44 AM
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16. More War, More Outsourced Jobs.
Or possibly not.

Good luck!
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:48 AM
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17.  I like my job, as a lobbyist for drug and credit corporations ... vote Clinton
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:49 AM
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19. I'm going to vote in about three hours.
I'm in the same boat. I can't make up my mind. I was an Edwards supporter but now I have to pick someone else.

I don't like voting with my gut.

I want to make a logical, rational decision but both Hillary and Obama have their good and bad points. They are so similar it is very hard to make a choice.

I was hoping one of them would come out of the closet or something and I would vote for them. But no closets are opening and I have 3 hours to make a decision.

Sigh... I miss Edwards.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:49 AM
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20. Vote your conscience.
Vote for the person who most closely represents what you think.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:01 AM
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21. may you get in touch with that which you hold true and may you vote accordingly.
in my case what i hold true is the hillary agenda. i voted for her.

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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:16 AM
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22. Vote for who you do not like
As long as it's a democrat.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:20 AM
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23. If there is one issue that should cinch it in favor of Obama i think it would be this one
i think(its what won me to Obama even tho I'm not an American, I'm wishing our government would offer something similar)

Create a Transparent and Connected Democracy

* Open Up Government to its Citizens: The Bush Administration has been one of the most secretive, closed administrations in American history. Our nation’s progress has been stifled by a system corrupted by millions of lobbying dollars contributed to political campaigns, the revolving door between government and industry, and privileged access to inside information-all of which have led to policies that favor the few against the public interest. An Obama presidency will use cutting-edge technologies to reverse this dynamic, creating a new level of transparency, accountability and participation for America’s citizens. Technology-enabled citizen participation has already produced ideas driving Obama’s campaign and its vision for how technology can help connect government to its citizens and engage citizens in a democracy. Barack Obama will use the most current technological tools available to make government less beholden to special interest groups and lobbyists and promote citizen participation in government decision-making. Obama will integrate citizens into the actual business of government by:

1. Making government data available online in universally accessible formats to allow citizens to make use of that data to comment, derive value, and take action in their own communities. Greater access to environmental data, for example, will help citizens learn about pollution in their communities, provide information about local conditions back to government and empower people to protect themselves.

2. Establishing pilot programs to open up government decision-making and involve the public in the work of agencies, not simply by soliciting opinions, but by tapping into the vast and distributed expertise of the American citizenry to help government make more informed decisions.

3. Requiring his appointees who lead Executive Branch departments and rulemaking agencies to conduct the significant business of the agency in public, so that any citizen can watch a live feed on the Internet as the agencies debate and deliberate the issues that affect American society. He will ensure that these proceedings are archived for all Americans to review, discuss and respond. He will require his appointees to employ all the technological tools available to allow citizens not just to observe, but also to participate and be heard in these meetings.

4. Restoring the basic principle that government decisions should be based on the best-available, scientifically-valid evidence and not on the ideological predispositions of agency officials.

5. Lifting the veil from secret deals in Washington with a web site, a search engine, and other web tools that enable citizens easily to track online federal grants, contracts, earmarks, and lobbyist contacts with government officials.

6. Giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days before signing any non-emergency legislation.

7. Bringing democracy and policy deliberations directly to the people by requiring his Cabinet officials to have periodic national online town hall meetings to answer questions and discuss issues before their agencies.

8. Employing technologies, including blogs, wikis and social networking tools, to modernize internal, cross-agency, and public communication and information sharing to improve government decision-making.

* Bring Government into the 21st Century: Barack Obama will use technology to reform government and improve the exchange of information between the federal government and citizens while ensuring the security of our networks. Obama believes in the American people and in their intelligence, expertise, and ability and willingness to give and to give back to make government work better.

1. Obama will appoint the nation’s first Chief Technology Officer (CTO) to ensure that our government and all its agencies have the right infrastructure, policies and services for the 21st century. The CTO will ensure the safety of our networks and will lead an interagency effort, working with chief technology and chief information officers of each of the federal agencies, to ensure that they use best-in-class technologies and share best practices.

2. The CTO will have a specific focus on transparency, by ensuring that each arm of the federal government makes its records open and accessible as the E-Government Act requires. The CTO will also focus on using new technologies to solicit and receive information back from citizens to improve the functioning of democratic government.

3. The CTO will also ensure technological interoperability of key government functions. For example, the Chief Technology Officer will oversee the development of a national, interoperable wireless network for local, state and federal first responders as the 9/11 commission recommended. This will ensure that fire officials, police officers and EMTs from different jurisdictions have the ability to communicate with each other during a crisis and we do not have a repeat of the failure to deliver critical public services that occurred in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

4. In the 21st century, our economic success will depend not only on economic analysis but also on technological sophistication and direct experience in this powerful engine of our economy. In an Obama administration, the government’s economic policy-making organizations and councils will include individuals with backgrounds in our technology industry.
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:37 AM
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25. I'm a lot less afraid of what Obama will do as Pres.
Clinton truly frightens me.
Not quite as much as Bush/Cheney, but still...
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:54 AM
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26. So am I
This is the day I've been looking forward to, and now I sit here still undecided as to how I'm going to vote in our primary.

"Uncommitted" is on the ballot. Maybe I'll vote for him. :(
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:01 AM
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29. I was considering uncommitted or Dodd
but, didn't.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:11 AM
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30. Hillary! She'll be tough in the GE.
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