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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:49 AM
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Conyers: Bill Clinton "Can't Control Himself" on Trail
Conyers: Bill Clinton "Can't Contain Himself" On Trail
February 4, 2008 08:03 PM



Rep. John Conyers, the powerful chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama, levied harsh words for Bill Clinton, saying the former president "can't contain himself" on the campaign trail.

"He acts like this is an entitlement," said the Michigan Democrat. "How could anyone be challenging him and his wife?" It is hard for us to remember that that was exactly the age he was when he ran for president. He was 46, the same age . And he was considered an upstart."

Conyers has spent much of the past week campaigning for Obama, and he called the primary battle one of the most pitched and emotional he'd ever seen. In a phone interview with the Huffington Post, he dismissed the notion -- raised in last Thursday's CNN Democratic debate -- that either of the candidates would be willing to server as the other's vice president.

"I started off thinking this is the way we would resolve it," the congressman said. "But I think they both generally see themselves as presidential material and not people working underneath or subservient to the other. You know the vice president thing as Clinton and Gore taught us doesn't always work out too well."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/04/conyers-bill-clinton-ca_n_84940.html
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:52 AM
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1. "...and a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama"
Kinda sums it up there.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:52 AM
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2. Not the facts, but the narrative.
We will all regret this someday -- fairly soon.

Both sides. Any narrative.

--p!
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:55 AM
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3. I respect Conyers more than most anyone else in Congress.
Are the Clinton supporters going to bash him now?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:58 AM
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5. I think he's caught up in the campaign
like the rest of us. I personally see loose tongues in the upper ranks of both campaigns. I wish they wouldn't air this shit in public.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:57 AM
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4. He's right
and I can't wait to see Conyers and Obama making up for lost time in Michigan in the general.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:00 AM
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6. He is right. And the sad thing for those of us who would have liked
to support Clinton is that she could have won this had she presented herself as a competent contestant seeking our vote and not as the inevitable outcome. That was a huge mistake.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:09 AM
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9. Good point
and it also would have been pretty powerful if she was perceived as "underutilizing" Bill instead of making him a co-campaigner. Risky, yes, but she has enough substance on her own to pull it off. She could have looked gutsy and defused the co-President/Billary talk at the same time. Too late for that now.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:02 AM
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7. Absolutely He is right! This is why I believe Obama will NOT choose HRC to be
his running mate. Would you want her uncontrolled spouse second guessing your every decision?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:03 AM
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8. Rep. Conyers is just giving it to you straight
I would not expect anything less from him. I imagine that Pres. Clinton would like nothing more than to wag his finger in the face of the young upstart and give him a real "talking to."
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:10 AM
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10. Conyers, get back to your job investigating Bush
stay out of these petty primary catfights.

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:23 AM
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12. I agree and to suggest the VP is a lackey or subsurvient....
dismisses all the good things that Gore did as VP (like that surplus that cheney spent).
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:39 AM
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13. Gore was a great VP
a credit to himself and also to Clinton who didn't have a big ego and gave Gore a full role in the Administration. A fantastic team that will go down in history. Loved them both, man they saved a lot of lives. They just got it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:10 AM
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18. I didn't get Conyer's comment about Clinton and Gore...Gore was a great
VP and certainly didn't hog the show. I hope Conyers wasn't trying to diss him.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:14 AM
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11. Oh that from the guy who can't get an investigation closed
so wimpy, so ineffective, so negative.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:59 AM
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17. Conyers stood up & demanded an investigation to Ohio '04. He later produced
"Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio" (BLACKWELL ASKED TO TESTIFY ON FRIDAY FEB 8)

now Bill Clinton-WHAT HAS HE DONE? (he remained silent when thousands of Af Am voters were disenfranchised maybe because it would have hurt his wife's chances this year if either Kerry or Gore had taken office)

Clinton crony Carville even assisted:

Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)


By M.J. Rosenberg | bio




On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

-snip

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

-snip

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:50 AM
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14. Can't imagine Bill in Whitehouse again
chasing interns, scandals, making an ass of himself. Nothing will be accomplished, the Clintons would spend entire term putting out fires. I am tired of the presidency becoming a joke the whole world laughs at.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:52 AM
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15. great bumper sticker idea..
Conyers- Shut up
and Impeach!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwvSwOP7Ow
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:52 AM
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16. Gotta hate those occasional "Bubba eruptions"
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