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Uncle Sinister Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:29 PM
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CNN declares Obama winner in a landslide!
That's what it feels like, anyway. The way CNN has annointed Obama while dissing Clinton is shameful and repugnent. As supposed journalists every CNN political reporter should be deeply ashamed.

In a recent CNN "ballot bowl" segment Obama got 18 min., while Clinton got 6. That disparity in a dead heat race is a blatant attempt to throw the election.

I was on the fence before, now I'm definitely voting for Clinton.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:30 PM
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1. I'm sure you were on the fence before. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:30 PM
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2. Yes, he's very concerned.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:34 PM
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17. I am too.
It's just horrible that the media is finally giving the kind of positive and relatively uncritical coverage to a Democrat that Republican politicians routinely get. :cry: :sarcasm:

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mutant80 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:46 PM
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I dropped Cable TV because
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:47 PM by mutant80
I don't need to pay news stations to campaign against my candidate.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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10. fencing for Hillary?
I hear she used to be a crack dealer back in the day.

:rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:54 PM
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30. Hey, I was on the fence
but then all the ugly, nasty, jerk Hillary supporters here pushed me to Obama. So, I'm gonna go check off his name when I get home.

We use old school ballots. :woohoo:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:31 PM
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51. Me too. I never look at a candidate to decide who to vote for. I base my vote entirely on
the behavior of that candidate's supporters and how much time the media devotes to said candidate. Because That.Makes.Sense.

:rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 05:36 PM
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59. See?
I hope the Hillary supporters are happy now. :rofl:
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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3. On the fence?. riiight...
:eyes:
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:35 PM
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19. You could say he's got no sense....
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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4. This Morning CNN was all Hillary all the time...
I watched all of the morning segments on CNN and they were flooded with Clinton coverage. Other than a short interview piece on Obama, they had segment after segment focused on Hillary.

Maybe they shift focus as the day goes on?
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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5. MSNBC is pro Obama too. The media took us to war.
Now they want to choose our candidate.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:48 PM
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26. You are right on both counts. nt
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:32 PM
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52. what about those of us who have turned off the TV
who brainwashed us to vote a certain way? I caucus tonight, maybe I should plug in the old boob tube and see who I am supposed to vote for...:think:
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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6. The reality is that they get promoted for catapulting the propaganda
The reality is that they get promoted for catapulting the propaganda and demoted or fired for telling the truth.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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7. Change your subject to "Mainstream Media makes my decision on who to vote for"..
Talk about a STUPID reason to pick a candidate. "Well, CNN is favoring Obama today, so i'm going to vote for Clinton. HA! I'll show CNN"...

Seriously - pick a cause, and stick with it.
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HopeforChange Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:36 PM
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20. That's why they are doing this. So people will think he won and not go to the Polls. n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:19 PM
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45. It doesn't work that way--especially in an election in which so many are torn between the two
There seems to be an "underdog" factor in these primaries--probably because people are so torn between these two candidates. Every time Hillary is supposed to win it seems to move votes to Obama, and every time Obama is supposed to win, it seems to move votes toward Hillary.

Everybody should stop whining and stop forming conspiracy theories. The people seem to be deciding these things for themselves. The media made itself irrelevant after ten years of crying wolf, shilling, and distorting.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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8. Don't do that....for a second I had a ray of hope...
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propol Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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9. The media loves a dead heat horserace
n/t
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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11. That'll show the media!
They'll *have* to cover Sen. Clinton if you're voting for her!!!







Kidding! Just kidding...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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12. I was on the fence before I saw you had thrown support to Hillary for such a silly reason.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM by jefferson_dem
Now i'm definitely going to vote for Obama to balance that out.

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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:32 PM
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13. It is disgraceful...
And...I signed up for the CNN political market yesterday...got my free $5000 and voted for Hillary with it..and my account was mysteriously closed. I was told that if this was in error, I could send an email. I never got a response. nice.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:39 PM
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25. Definitely a conspiracy!
When CNN can take your free $5000, then what really do we have left?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:33 PM
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14. A similar thing happened before the NH primary
I had no idea who I was going to vote for, all I knew was that I was really annoyed at how the press was treating Hillary. When I met her at the polling station and she cheerfully shook my hand, I decided that the press was full of shit and ended up voting for her that day.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:33 PM
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15. 'On the fence before, now I'm voting for Hillary' because the news doesn't cover her enough.
That might be the dumbest reason I've ever heard for voting for someone.

But, we all know that you were voting for anyways, NO?
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:36 PM
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21. Yeah, that reason ranks right up there with
voting for someone due to the criticism of same person on an anonymous message board by anonymous hitmen... Sometimes I truly fear for our country.
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Truthiness Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:33 PM
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16. You are voting for Clinton based on CNN's treatment of her?
I can think of better criteria to judge a potential president. Did he or she vote for and support the biggest foreign policy blunder in US history, for example? With regard to Hillary Clinton, the answer is "yes."
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:35 PM
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18. Okey doke nt
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:37 PM
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22. Obama will be savaged if he's nominated. Dangerous game to forget that.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:38 PM
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56. Anyone who is nominated with a (D) behind their name will be savaged
by the GOP Slime machine...its predictable, also remember "Swiftboating" today is American slang for LYING. I think most of America knows what to expect from the party that supported the 935 Lies Administration.

Fortunately for *, not one of those lies involved a blow job...so its okay.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:37 PM
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23. If everyone voted on the basis of CNN's coverage we'd basically have campaign finance reform.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:38 PM by cottonseed
I think it's brilliant. Could save the country billions.
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:38 PM
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24. Me Too!
I refuse to let the republicans or the right wing media tell me to vote for Obama. Hillary all the Way!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:50 PM
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27. I think Edwards voters knew how the networks work, and now seeing them put Obama on every other word
is making them go for Hillary, since she is getting the Edwards treatment
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:52 PM
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28. I really hate these posts.
Everybody is so unfair to Hillary, so you are going to vote for her.

What a stupid waste of your vote.

My God, around my house we call it the Clinton News Network. It probably isn't, but because we
like Obama, we do not think he gets enough coverage. We are biased and so are you.


All I can say is I hope that you forgot the sarcasm thingy. Otherwise you get the prize for the dumbest
post I have seen today.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:53 PM
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29. MSNBC is even worse.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:58 PM
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31. Actually Fox has pretty decent coverage today
Oh, Oh ... am I turning into a Republican ? :rofl:
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:51 PM
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39. it is really bad when MSNBC's Pat Buchanan is the least bias
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:41 PM
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32. I honestly believe CNN has been more balanced than
MSNBC. Now MSNBC has been unfair to Hillary. I'm an Obama supporter but I can see that MSNBC is a bit unfair with their Hillary coverage. They were the same way with Kerry last year (during the general election)............
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:43 PM
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33. CMPA: MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY"
Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject CMPA: MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY"
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4399627#4399627
4399627, CMPA: MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY"
Posted by ruggerson on Mon Feb-04-08 11:37 PM

Non-partisan group finds huge media bias against Senator Clinton.

http://www.cmpa.com/election%20news%202_1_08.htm

MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY”

NBC Is Toughest on Hillary; FOX Has Heaviest Coverage

Hillary Clinton is getting the worst press and Barack Obama the best press of any major presidential candidate, and Bill Clinton is also getting negative reviews, while the gap in good press between John McCain and Mitt Romney is narrowing, according to a new study of TV news election coverage by the Center for Media and Public Affairs. The study also finds that FOX’s evening news show had the most coverage of policy issues and the least coverage of the campaign horse race.

These results are from CMPA’s 2008 ElectionNewsWatch Project. They are based on a scientific content analysis of 765 election news stories (22 hours 15 minutes of airtime) that aired on the flagship evening news shows on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX (the first 30 minutes of “Special Report with Brit Hume”, which is most like the network news shows in content and presentation) from December 16, 2007 through January 27, 2008.

MAJOR FINDINGS:

Hillary Pilloried?

Since mid-December, when the presidential candidates turned their full attention to the Iowa caucuses, Sen. Barack Obama has led the race for good press and Sen. Hillary Clinton has lagged the farthest behind. From Dec 16 through Jan 27 five out of six on-air evaluations of Obama (84%) have been favorable, compared to a bare majority (51%) of evaluations of Mrs. Clinton. Examples:

“ message is one of change and reconciliation, not protest and looking back at old wounds.” – Donna Brazile, ABC

“In the face of two staggering defeats, two questions loom: Is Hillary’s campaign in crisis? And is a massive shakeup necessary?” – Brit Hume, FOX

The gap in good press has widened since the New Hampshire primary, with Clinton dropping to 47% positive comments and Obama holding steady at 83% positive. NBC’s coverage has been the most critical of Clinton – nearly 2 to 1 negative (36% positive and to 64% negative) Conversely, ABC’s coverage was most supportive -- nearly 2 to 1 positive (63% v. 37%). CBS and FOX were more balanced – 50% positive comments on FOX and 56% positive on CBS. Examples:

(more at link)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:44 PM
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34. There are a lot of newbies complaining about the primary coverage
Why don't you help out with that by going away?
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:45 PM
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35. that's not a basis upon which to make a voting decision, if you're mad about the media coverage,
complain to them.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:46 PM
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36. The media gives you good coverage when you are trending like ...
no other presidential candidate in history.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:49 PM
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37. MSNBC did the same last night!
Dan Abrams started by saying Obama media was heavy positive and Hillary and Bill was heavy negative press... thought... about time someone said it...

then later in the program... they did a state by state count down...

Alabama was up by 6 for Hillary... so then they colored in the state for Obama... thought... hmmm is that a mistake? and then MN my home... Hillary up by 7 points... it is a caucus state they said, so put it in the Obama column... colored it light blue for Obama... WTF! makes no sense!!!!

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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:51 PM
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38. Hahaha
If you vote for Clinton for that reason, that would be one of the most allsome things I'eve ever heard of. :rofl:

What a joke.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:56 PM
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40. There's a reason the media doesn't want her to win
The media knows that if Hillary is our nominee that she will have the best chance of beating the Republican candidate, so they are doing everything in their power to get Obama into the General Election. Once Obama gets the nomination, if he does, the media will turn on him like junkyard dogs and we'll be in for 100 more years of war under President McCain who won't even work up a sweat in beating Barack.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:01 PM
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42. I'm afraid you are correct - and I do not like the sound of President McCain
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:21 PM
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48. Ding, Ding, Ding. You Got it ! nm
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:57 PM
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41. now you know how us kucinich fans felt
throughout this entire process. congratulations!!!!!!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:07 PM
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43. I'm voting for Hillary based on CNN's treatment of Lee L. Mercer Jr.
Or am I voting for Obama based on CNN's treatment of Lee L. Mercer Jr.?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:35 PM
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54. I can tell you that I'm voting for Mercer
based on American moms' treatment of the Burger King!

They tried to KILL HIM!!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:16 PM
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44. MSNBC found ONE poll that shows Obama winning California big and will talk of nothing else
Richard Wolf rained on their parade by pointing out that this is one poll of many and that it is an extreme result with lots of margin of error and that there were extreme result polls before NH and SC, too. I thought that Dan Abrams was gonna cry when Wolfe did this. Trotting out a poll that shows that your candidate is going to win by a landslide before the election (so the opponent's voters should just stay home) is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

Bonus points to Wolfe for being the only pundit at MSNBC to refuse to call McCain a "maverick". Even KO did a whole "that McCain is such a maverick" feature last night. My mom is no longer watching KO, and she used to be a big fan. She is a lifelong Democrat.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:20 PM
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46. Obama won in the Delaware student mock polls - 59% to 35% n/t
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:21 PM
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47. If we based our views on CNN reporting
We'd all be for the war in Iraq.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:25 PM
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49. Dan Abrams said last night this would happen today. There is an Obama - MSM Lovefest going on.nm
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:26 PM
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50. wonderful news! /nt
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:32 PM
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53. :whoosh:
Been watching CNN for 5 hours straight have seen pretty level coverage Hillary/Obama, Dems/Repubs, Romney/McCain
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Uncle Sinister Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:36 PM
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55. you must get a different CNN than I do.
not quite as lopsided as yesterday's "Ballot Bowl", but still more face time, more talking heads, and more positive coverage in general for Obama
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:40 PM
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57. SWEET!
Happy days are here again!!!:party:

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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:41 PM
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58. Yes, ridiculous--but early exit polls are about to be discussed
In California, our local paper said it may be TWO DAYS before all the absentee ballots are counted here. Absentee voters are overwhelmingly supporting Clinton.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:13 PM
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60. Yes, indeed, they should wait until Obama is the clear winner.
And then they should spit on HRC.
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