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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:41 PM
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Daily Telegraph says Kerry asked for 12 month draft deferment
Anyone know anything about this? Is it verified? Is it BS? Is it new? Does it matter???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/07/wkerr07.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/03/07/ixnewstop.html

"He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree course at Yale University in the mid-1960s."
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:42 PM
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1. Telegraph is the Murdoch rag--never believe it without corroboration (nt)
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:44 PM
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3. Yes, I know
But it just got posted on another BB. Is it a new attack, or has it been debunked already? That's my question.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:45 PM
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4. No, Telegraph isn't Murdoch - it may be worse
Its owned by the soon-to-be-prison-inmate Conrad Black.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:48 PM
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8. Telegraph is Murdoch
Murdoch & News Group: Holdings
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:03 PM
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13. I don't know what ketupa.net is
but its wrong.

Hollinger International, Lord Black's company, is the sole owner of the Telegraph. From the Telegraph's website:



Telegraph Group Limited is a newspaper publisher which publishes The Daily Telegraph, The Sunday Telegraph, The Spectator and The Weekly Telegraph.

Telegraph Group Limited is owned by Hollinger International Inc, an international newspaper publishing company with approximately 200 newspaper properties in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and Israel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/pressoffice/main.jhtml?view=DISPLAYCONTENT&grid=P8&menuId=-1&menuItemId=-1&_requestid=20367
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:11 PM
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17. You're right--mixed it up with the Australian Telegraph.
Sorry about the mixup.

The site is a good way to look at a media group's holdings. Here's what they have for Hollinger.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:10 PM
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16. I think you're thinking of the Australian Telegraph nt
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:11 PM
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18. Yep, belatedly realized my mistake. :-) (nt)
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:09 PM
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15. well it might be owned by pornographer & immigrant hater
Richard Desmond (Express/Daily Star/Asian Babes) in the near future -- which could happily take out what little credibility the Torygraph has left!
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:11 PM
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19. The Telegraph may lie to the right of Genghis Khan
but it still seems pretty accurate, as far as the facts go, for a British paper. Biased? All to hell and gone. But it isn't filled with the sort of embarassing errors The Times and The Independent have.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:16 PM
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21. You forget the Grauniad! But yeah, decent editors. nt
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:18 PM
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22. I love the editorials in "Asian Babes". . .
There's seemingly no topic they won't take issue with head on! j/k
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:44 PM
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2. In other words, before Kerry enlisted, he considered going to school
in Paris.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:47 PM
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6. If the Republicans think that they can hit Kerry with that one.....
Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 08:48 PM by virtualobserver
Then they have no respect whatsoever for the intelligence of the American people.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:56 PM
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11. Nor should they have respect for the intelligence
of the American public. Forty-three percent of them think that * should be re-elected.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:45 PM
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5. Kerry ENLISTED. He was NOT drafted.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:48 PM
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7. Even if it's true...
He wrote to his local recruitment board seeking permission to spend a further 12 months studying in Paris, after completing his degree course at Yale University in the mid-1960s.

The revelation appears to undercut Sen Kerry's carefully-cultivated image as a man who willingly served his country in a dangerous war - in supposed contrast to President Bush, who served in the Texas National Guard and thus avoided being sent to Vietnam.

One year deferment or not, Kerry did willingly serve his country in a dangerous war. What's the deal. The comparison isn't "supposed."

Even if it's true, compare to the deferment history of the Bush gang.

They're grasping at straws.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:50 PM
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9. that asn`t that
unusual to ask for deferment if you were in school,some got it some didn`t it was all up to the draft board.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 08:55 PM
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10. I say " bring it on"...now.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:01 PM
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12. So what he has a right to ask for a deferment...at least he went.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:07 PM
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14. If true, it's meaningless
We were not under attack or in a state of emergency.People went, if they were lucky they came home when their time was up and other people went. Getting an education was allowed. He went of his own accord when he did go.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:18 PM
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23. good point. kerry went to vietnam, bush did not.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 09:13 PM
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20. He tried to duck his service by enlisting immediately?
How does that make sense? Also he asked for a student deferment after a course or after graduation? It says course. This story sounds bogus.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 11:14 PM
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24. So even though he served honorably, he may have wanted a deferment earlier
Oh OK. That's an issue....not.

That "story" has about as many legs as a rotten egg.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 12:08 AM
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25. it doesn't matter one bit
deferments were common and the bottom line is he fought in Viet Nam for two tours.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 12:54 AM
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26. He served on the front lines. When he served doesn't matter, imho. (n/t)
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 12:57 AM by w4rma
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