Harvard Crimson: John Kerry sought deferment to study in Paris

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185

This is a story from 1970, Harvard Crimson, noting John Kerry's failed attempt to get a deferment to study in Paris.

It also mentions that his wounds were "slight" and the RNC is looking in to the nature of those wounds.

"When he approached his draft board for permission to study for a year in Paris, the draft board refused and Kerry decided to enlist in the Navy. The Navy assigned him to the USS Gridley which between December 1966 and July 1968 saw four months of action off the Vietnam coast. In August through November, 1968, Kerry was trained to be the skipper of a patrol boat for Vietnamese rivers. For the next five months, until April of 1969, Kerry was the commanding Lieutenant of a patrol boat in the Mekong Delta. He was wounded slightly on three different occasions and received a Silver Star for bravery."

Speaking of a failed attempt........

Good! That shows how desperate they are. Remind me again, what was the chimp doing back then? ....Oh, thats right!

How do you like your toast, Smirky?

That was the rule at the time for wounds that didn't involve the loss of a limb or an eye. It doesn't matter how serious the wounds were. He got three of them when he was under fire in a war zone. He rescued one of his men when he was wounded the most seriously.

I suppose the GOP wouldn't consider anyone a hero unless he was a DEAD hero, huh?

McGovern was a pilot and lead pilot. One brave man. The reason Nixon and Bush's GOP smeared him? McGovern wanted peace in Vietnam.

...those heavy bomber missions were definitely not for the faint of heart.

... they stopped the fascists who wanted to rule the world. They were willing to sacrifice their lives for our freedom. Only the bravest in heart and surest in spirit were fit for the job.

We ALL owe him everything.

You had to ask???

How many has Chicken Geoge lost?

put up this stuff.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :)

The RNC's sniveling little hero can never measure up to the man that is John Kerry! They know it, and they are scared! They can't defend their POS, so they have to try to belittle a United States sailor. How pathetic and unpatriotic is that? Do they have that same opinion of any current members of the US military?

If they are that freaking stupid, this is going to be so much fun!

It was in Brinkley's book which came out in December.

Drudge has posted it numerous times in the months since.

instead he volunteered for a second tour of duty as a Swift boat captain, about the most dangerous gig you could get.

Then, he could have hung around Cam Ranh Bay and cut deals to do shore patrols instead of going up-river, and he volunteered to go up-river.

When it's all said and done, he sought battle, he didn't avoid it.

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I thought such things were rubber stamped. Go to school, get out of war free card no questions asked.

How did he "fail" to get one.

However, if you really didn't want to go there were exempted professions to enter that were wide open for a college grad.

I thought Kerry had gone in earlier.

I recall well Clinton returned from London and had to join ROTC to keep out, but, only a month or so later, it no longer mattered.

You must be right. There's no other reason, is there.

There are some guys still alive because Kerry "FAILED" to get a deferment.

Kerry joine the navy in '66, right after he graduated from yale (using up his four year rubber stamped deferment). I guess the draft boad simply didn't buy the 'overseas study' bit. Interesting, Clintons Rhodes scholar study at Oxford University migh have been considered a little bit more ligit.

co-worker about Kerry's military record.
He says Kerry refuses to make his military and medical records public....I don't know .
Has anyone got a link that describes Kerry's purple heart wounds? He claims he only missed one day a service(ie.. he really wasn't injured)
I just need a little help on John's military ,medical records.

Tell your rethug co-worker that he's full of shit! If someone wants those records, all they have to do is request them per the Freedom of Information Act. Fill out the paperwork, pay the fee and hurry up & wait for them to arrive in the mailbox ... VOILA!

Maybe whoever wants these records is just saying that Kerry refused because he/she is too tight to spring for the fuckin' fee. No doubt they want Kerry to pick up the tab. Assholes.

FOIA doesn't open Military records and definitely doesn't open medical records. Pres. Clinton never did release his med. records despite Repug bitches and Moans

And I don't mean the dental appointment in Alabama--with the dentist who doesn't remember him.

records should be available to the public...but their military records should be...I think

Kerry thus far has refused to release them. This only puts doubt in the minds of swing voters and I'm sure will cause some to wonder what is being hidden.

I say release them and move on to more important things like getting bush out.

That's all I would ever have to say to these people. There is nothing to defend. John Kerry served 4 years in the military and anybody who wants to smear his service is slime. End of discussion.

Things like civis killed and other possibly bad news. Many people won't just take his word that it's clean and they feel the need to have proof.

Maybe we can get that when Bush can prove he didn't help his girlfriend get an abortion. Some people just won't take his word on this and they feel the need to have proof. That's makes just as much sense. Come up with any crap you can imagine and then make somemone proof a negative.

Then there is Bush who can't prove a positive. Can't find anyone who served with him during his time in Alabama, except one guy who came forward finally this year. But oops ! He vouched for Bush's attendance for months that even Bush says he wasn't there. Oh well.

Would you be so kind as to point to where I said "I want proof that he didn't kill any civilians" or kindly take back your cheap shot?

and suggest that some people would not believe Kerry on this without seeing his records ? Does that not suggest that you think he should prove that he didn't kill civilians?


In post #31 you said Kerry should release his military records.

Go ahead I guess. They get by with their shit because we're always so willing to have reasonable debates and argue with them and prove things to them. It never does any good. They just keep repeating their lies. Shame them into silence. They really ought to be ashamed that they would even think of smearing somebody's war record. One day 1, they smear Kerry because he lies about war crimes being committed in Vietnam. One day 2, they smear Kerry because he committed war crimes. They have NO morals or ethics. They'll say anything to win. Unless we shame them into silence. That's what I think.

to study in Paris, he would have SHOWED UP EVERY DAY!

Do they REALLY want to start talking about deferments?

Wow, Kerry DID NOT get one.

Who did? Um, Cheney (several), Ashcroft, and numerous other chickenhawks.

Let's have this conversation.

Wait, Kerry tries to get a defferment but he can't...

All the rethugs did.

And Bush got to serve light duty in the Texas Air Guard (despite an impossibly long waiting list), and then didn't even have to show up for duty.

Hmm....

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I guess I don't understand why Kerry won't just release his war records and shut these people up. Bob Dole and McCain released theirs before running so Kerry should just follow suit and be done with it.

For this to keep coming up. I really do.

4 more years of Bush. All I can figure is that's your agenda.