Will Pitt's father says Kerry can win Alabama

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State Democratic Party chairman Redding Pitt said the party’s strategy was to field a strong Democratic presidential candidate who could produce 40 percent of the Democratic vote in order to help down-ballot races.

But on Saturday, Pitt, who is Kerry’s state campaign chairman, said he believes Kerry can win Alabama.

If Kerry does, something no Democrat has done since 1976, and wins every state won by Vice President Al Gore in his narrow electoral loss to Bush four years ago, he’ll be the next president.

“He’s going to run a strong race in all parts of the country," Pitt said. “We have a good presidential nominee who’s going to take the fight in a positive way."

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we'll be lucky to take Maryland and Penn. along with N.Y. and mass.
We will not take any southern state or Midwestern state the bible belt is out the shrub will use the Gay marriage issue to win them easily.

that idea , was down in the south last fall and jr. is'nt a real big hit down there from what i read from people i talked to , they are as sick of him as you and i , now maybe he has the nut cases in his corner , but all down south are not nut cases

and Kerry's merrily pissing away on it...

(it's also a third rail issue in the rest of the country that's not the Northeast and California)

here in Alabama. No hope.

Thanks so much for setting us all straight on this issue. Your opinion is so weighty.

Prairie Home Companion line from yesterday's show: A principal difference between a Southerner and a Northerner is that a Southerner tries to appear less intelligent than he really is...

You don't put a $50.00 hat on a $2.00 haircut.

some insight we don't get..

Gotta keep that option open.

Maybe it's just that we don't all run in the "same crowd." If you get my drift. :D

But, I think we will do better in the South than the "pundits/pollsters" are now predicting.

:toast:

Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan went to Gore in 2000, and will go to Kerry this year.

Pennsylvania and Ohio could go to Kerry if we work hard.

Massachussets and Maryland going to *??? Don't make me laugh.

There's even deep anger at Bush in central PA. He's finished in PA. It'll be all they can do to keep Spector in the Senate. Ohio will be very nice, but it's very much up in the air, if not leaning Bushie, at this point.

in the Bellefonte-State College-Boalsburg area on Bush, and not just among the university people. Sure, it's still Bush country, but nowhere near as strongly as it needs to be for him to overcome the Philly-Pittsburgh nexus.

Bush is done in PA.

It's amazing the hatred for * down here. Of course, North Louisiana is the Bible Belt, but I've heard that even "up" there, there is consternation, fear and dislike of the shrimpster. I think Clark as VP would play very well in Alabama and Louisiana. That man is liked down here. So far, Kerry is an alternative. IOW, Kerry unknown, Clark known.

Are you saying Kerry would be lucky to take NY and Mass? Penn might be close, that's the only one I'd give you that may be close, but I'm not even so sure about that...

posts this 2 states only scenario on multiple threads.

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stop listening the GOP propaganda machine. It's addled your brain.

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Florida voters leaning toward Kerry

A poll shows that a plurality of Florida voters disapprove of President Bush's performance on the economy and the war in Iraq, while his Democratic opponent is stronger with crucial swing voters.

BY PETER WALLSTEN AND LESLEY CLARK

pwallsten@herald.com


Increasingly critical of President Bush on his handling of the economy and the war in Iraq, more Florida voters now say they plan to support Democrat John Kerry than to help reelect the president, according to a new poll.

The Herald/St. Petersburg Times survey reveals striking vulnerabilities for Bush among key independent voters in the state that narrowly put him into the White House four years ago.

More Florida voters disapprove of his job performance than approve, another sign of the president's lagging popularity since the 2001 terrorist attacks transformed Bush from a polarizing figure into a popular wartime president.

A majority of voters believe that the United States is ''moving in the wrong direction'' under Bush -- a marked reversal from two years ago, when 7 in 10 voters, including half of Democrats, approved of Bush's job performance.<snip
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/8125717.htm

I lived there a long time, until just recently. There is now a Repub
governor, but that was because the Democrat he ran against was a woman. Kennedy name meant nothing vs her status as female...would have been Maryland's first lady gov. Also, her campaign wasn't really very good from what I saw of it. But this is an aberation...and most Repub gov's of Maryland have notorious histories.. like Agnew, and what was the name of the other Maryland Repub governor who got into big trouble...race tracks or something?
Anyway, Maryland is fairly solidly Democratic I thought.

Alabama's economy is in bad shape. People there could easily vote against Bush. The only people who are going to vote on gay marriage are people solidly in the Pat Robertson wing of the GOP tent.

Of course, it depends on the VP. But the fact that such a red state as Alabama is possibly going Blue is certainly promising.

Who cares about Gay marriage when you don't have a job or healthcare or whatever. The religous right is going to probably come out but their base is being squeezed right now. Their base has good reason to be unhappy.

I grew up in South Alabama. You have just insulted our party chairman.

Apologize or be PWNED.

:)

At the very least, Minnesota looks good for the Dems, especially if turnout is high in the Twin Cities and the Iron Range/Duluth area.

I can't imagine WI or MN, to name two, getting all frotherd up about "gay marriage," except insofar as it will alienate a lotta Log Cabin types.

Yeah, yeah. The R-dominated WI assembly passed some stupid attempt at a constitutional amendment, but it isn't going anywhere, and I sure don't hear the populace at large getting excited one way or the other.

I've been to the south and have talked with a lot of people down there. No way in hell are they all Bible-thumping, hate-filled rednecks. No fargin way!

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when Bush doesn't take Kansas.

Per http://www.johnedwards2004.com/map/ it is a tie 269 - 269

:)

but they LOST.

Don't count us inbred rednecks out so easily.

The Roy Moore supporters made lots of noise, but very few average people around here took them seriously.

They were total jokes among most people. Even when they'd be protesting at a church near, say, a grocery store I was in, people -- even people religious enough to wear WWJD bracelets and crosses around their necks -- would be laughing at them. "Those people ever bother to READ the 10 Commandments? Seems to me there's one about not worshipping graven images."

This from a Holiness woman (a Pentecostal sect down here easily identifiable by the fact that all the woman wear floor-length skirts and have hair down to their rear ends) in the line at Kroger's!!!!!

AL could go Dem, depending on voter turnout. If we get the base out, it might be a Florida 2000-type squeaker.

Dare to hope, people!!

perhaps?

Moore will divide the fundies, opening the state for the taking.

I've talked with several who voted for Bush in 2000 that are now either voting for Kerry or suddenly noncommittal. This has just happened in the last few weeks. I'm hearing complaints about layoffs, state funding crisis, lack of job creation, and what they perceive as a never ending quagmire in Iraq. The Auburn-Opelika newspaper has had negative articles or letters to the editor about Bush every few days. There was on article yesterday making fun of Limbaugh and Hannity, and today one blasting Bush for invading Iraq. The state papers I read on the internet haven't been too kind to Bushit Inc. either. If you polled the press in Alabama, Kerry would probably be the leader.

My sister-in-law and her husband are ultra-fundies from Gulf Shores and they were ready to vote for Clark. Her husband is a vet by the way. I don't know how they will feel about Kerry without Clark, but I don't think the anti-war protesting will bother them too much. And oh dear god, don't send them a trial lawyer. I have to listen to such crazy lawsuit shit everytime we talk I think I'm living in a parallel universe.

Anyway, they are both tired of bush's America. She did say that the people in her church love the lying monkey (my term not hers) and she just listens to the praises on Sunday morning.

here's another quote you can use and it will actually hold true !

"arewethereyet at DU guarantees that John Kerry will take the District of Columbia easily in November."

Win or lose Alabama, Kerry wins in an electoral vote landslide.

If Alabama is in play, then Kerry wins everything Gore did, plus WV, Ohio, Missouri, NH. Thats over 310 electoral votes right there.

but I have as much chance of winning Alabama as John Kerry does.

the Republicans look like morons when they say they can win New York or California, let's not do the same.

that gets the point across pretty well. Deluding ourselves in to believing we will do this well can only bring defeat, and is total fantasy land. I am reminded of Lieberman saying "I've already won!" early in his primary campaign.

If we took AL (which has ice cubes chance in hell of going dem) I would put A LOT of money on the chance every other state in the union (except possibly texas) also went dem.

Dissension never won an election

It's a good thing when Republicans say they can win states like Penn, Oregon, and Cali, because then lefties will be more likely to vote Kerry. :)

just a little taste of reality.
and if you were thinking abut asking me.....John Kerry will not prance(sp.... "spell checker doesn't pick this one up" around the White House in his underpants tomorrow.)

Last year I evaluated each state in regard to how the voting percentages differ in regard to the national average, in presidential elections since '88. Alabama was among the most consistent, always tilting Republican by at least 11.5% but not more than 15.5%.

Even in '96, with Clinton winning the national tally by 8.5%, Alabama still voted 7% in favor of Dole, roughly 50.2% to 43.2%. In the dead heat national race of 2000, Bush trounced Gore 55-41 in Alabama.

So even in the incredibly unlikely event Alabama leans 5% less Republican than typical, Kerry would undoubtedly need to win the national vote by 7+ percent to have a chance in Alabama. As others have stated, Alabama is therefore irrelevant. If we win there, Bush will retain Utah, Alaska, Texas and little else.

Mr. Pitt is a Party guy. He's in the rather unenviable position right now of having to do everything he can for the Democratic Party in a state where we are pretty much down for the count.

He may look a little ridiculous now, but he won't when Kerry wins nationally.

You gotta know where your bread's buttered.