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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:05 PM
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Look at these cultist lemming followers! Sickening and bizarre...
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:07 PM by TwoSparkles
1963, John F Kennedy speaking in Germany. What a bunch of lemmings. Can't they think for themselves?


50,000 Cheer for Kerry and Bill Clinton in Philadelphia. Worshiping false Messiahs, no doubt. Pathetic.


Crowd of dazed and confused robots attend "Live Earth" concert organized by Al Gore. If Al Gore jumped
off a bridge, would these fools jump too?



"I haven't personally seen this many people gathered for peace since Vietnam," said Pat McPeak, a St. Paul school nurse
commenting on the large crowd of Wellstone supporters who marched against the Iraq war.
The nerve of Paul Wellstone supporters, gathering in such large numbers. Don't they realize that it's about
the issues? Clowns. Every single one of them.


It's a good thing America can see through a candidate who runs on "hope" and "charisma". Meaningless fluff.


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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:06 PM
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1. And your point would be... eom
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:07 PM
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3. Allow me: anyone who tries to discount Obama's popularity to "cultism"...
can go get fucked.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:12 PM
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13. Now there's someone who can talk policy -- LOL --no further proof required/nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:10 PM
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37. People calling Obama supporters "mindless members of a cult" are not addressing issues.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:11 PM by Buzz Clik
I stand by my comment. Does it apply to you? You decide.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:24 PM
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17. Thanks so much for permission.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:10 PM
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38. snark snark. You have more than my permission. Mind if I take pictures?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:07 PM
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4. Browse all of DU today
People calling everyone who supports anyone a cultist
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:09 PM
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7. Oh, sure. Now you've joined the Anti-cult-calling cult.
I didn't see that coming. :eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:12 PM
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12. The point is that...
...many in the Clinton camp are trying to spin Obama's large crowds and inspired,
enthusiastic supporters into something sinister---constantly positioning his supporters
as "cult-like" and a bunch of lemmings.

Since you missed the point---many great leaders through the years, have attracted large
crowds of devoted followers.

It's a good thing. Obama's crowds and enthusiastic supporters are a good thing--just
like the supporters and crowds of Wellstone, JFK, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and Al Gore.

The typical Clinton ploy---rip apart your opponents strengths into unrecognizable, negative
shreds--is at play. I'm just pointing out that large crowds and inspired crowds are not
as sinister as the Clintons would want many to believe.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 PM
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23. Placing Obama in with that group, when he is strictly an unproven entity, is an insult to
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:36 PM by juajen
those fine Americans. What I know about Obama would fill a thimble. He's good-looking, dresses well and has a lovely family. He proposes that America join hands across the table with their enemies, be they republicans, communists, muslims, etc. You get the idea. This will CHANGE the world. I'm wondering if this can be done in his first 6 days in office with the next day to rest? You get my drift? Other than this, his wonderful ideas are exactly like Hillary Clinton's. She knows who she will be working with. Either Obama does not know, or doesn't want to discuss it.

Please tell me how he will end the Iraq war and how his proposal differs from Hillary's proposal. Dont' come back with a difference in the amount of days they will begin withdrawing troops, please. That is juvenile. Neither can know what impediments will await them.

I want to know what is different about Obama. All I hear is "He is so inspiring!" Shit, people, you don't think that's cult-like? Get a grip!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:42 PM
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29. but your ignorance would fill yankee stadium.
What I know about Obama would fill a thimble.

read up. it's out there.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:49 PM
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42. Bill Clinton was "unproven" when he ran in 92.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 03:58 PM by Big Blue Marble
I bet you voted for him. I did. He had large crowds; spoke of hope and promised to change the
way our government was been run. Remember slogans like "A man from Hope?", "A New Covenant" and "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow."

We really knew nothing about him when we voted for him. We just were so tired of the Republicans.

We actually know more about Obama now than we did Bill then. If your brain only holds a thimble full
of Obama's credentials, that says a lot about you. You are disgustingly minimizing him.

It is obvious that it is your agenda to do so. You sound really, really stupid.


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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:37 PM
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26. I voted for Edwards...
And I think all y'all are nutty.

If you want this bullshit to stop, you should consider NOT starting new threads on the fucking topic! It appears to me, by virtue of all the threads on this topic, that all y'all are drama queens and attention whores and nutty as all hell.

Someone has to be the first to knock this crap off... so why don't you take the high ground instead of being a fucking bottom feeder?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:46 PM
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31. So standing around and not fighting...
...when people constantly paint you as an "Obamababy" and a "cultist" and someone
following "a Messiah"--is some kind of moral virtue?

Spare me.

There are literally dozens of these "Obama as cultist" threads, and as a 43-year old,
college graduate who researched for days--before I decided on Obama, I WILL speak out
when the one-line gossip mongers and distorters play havoc.

I'm not feeding the haters. I'm pointing out how absurd they are.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:51 PM
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33. You are stirring the pot, nothing more...
Your fighting doesn't help anything, it just keeps the shit pot stirred... you won't win this argument with the "cult" callers, nor they with you. You are just wasting bandwidth and keeping the stink rising... but if you think that's a nobel cause... :eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:58 PM
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34. Yeah, all of the people...
...who make fun of Obama supporters and call them "lemmings" and "cult followers" are turning
this place into a shit pot. You got that right.

I'm just trying to spray some Lysol and disinfect the place with a little bit of truth.

This is a messageboard isn't it...where we post opinions and respond to messages?

I'm not behaving like a good, little lemming am I?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:35 PM
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41. You're clueless...
You cant even see the folly in your own words.

I dont like either candidate.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:07 PM
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2. So.....what's wrong with Hillary, again?
Seems to me that your photos demonstrate that we have TWO good candidates running, not just one.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:08 PM
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5. Absolutely! We have two very popular candidates, and that's great.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:11 PM
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11. Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
On DU, Hillary people have been calling Obama people "cultists" for weeks now. Or do you live on another planet?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:19 PM
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15. If you search "cult" or "cultist" on DU, more than 50 DU posts..
...about Obama pop up---from screeching Hillary supporters--attempting
to position Obama's overwhelming support and enthusiastic crowds as
something sinister.

I love it when someone makes a good point, and then the initial gossip-mongers
deny ever flinging in the initial bullshit.

Desperation and dishonesty = Bizarre
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:09 PM
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6. Don't you get it--politicians are supposed to be popular, but not CREEPY-popular.
And just look at all the lemmings in those pictures. You can smell the espresso coming out of their pores. Ugh.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:09 PM
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8. Good point, TwoSparkles!
The same people who call Obama supporters "cult followers" would have said the same thing about John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. (Especially if they supported an opposing candidate.) It's just a handy little meme to throw around. Very Karl Rove-like.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:39 PM
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28. Saying he is like those two marvelous heros does not make it so.
NT
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:48 PM
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32. Obama draws crowds like those marvelous...
...heroes.

Hence, Obama's crowds aren't any more "cult like" or "a bunch of lemmings"
any more than Kennedy's, Wellstone's or Bill Clinton's were.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:09 PM
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9. Those are beautiful pics, TwoSparkles..
but you seem to have ruffeled some feathers already. :)
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:11 PM
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10. If DU had been around in 1963.....


"Look at the cult worshiping their messiah!"
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:18 PM
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14. Only a true cultist would have the gall to compare BO to JFK
:scared:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:27 PM
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20. Only a simpleton would make a false argument...
...and expect people to take them seriously.

Clearly, I am not comparing JFK and Obama.

I am comparing the CROWD SIZES---of many leaders, including JFK---and demonstrating
that just because a candidate can draw LARGE CROWDS OF ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTERS, that doesn't
mean that leader is a "cultist" or that their supporters are "lemmings"--as many have suggested here.

Try to keep up.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:36 PM
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24. You see what they mean now about HRC supporters being a little on the .. oh, nevermind.. :-) Goes
without saying !
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:45 PM
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40. You're right. Simpleton = cultist and comparing Bo to JFK
or other great leaders is just idiotic. 2 different subjects and

you got managed both in the same OP. Good fer you:dunce:
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:46 PM
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30. Crowds do not a cult make. Jim Jones had less than 1,000 followers.
I don't see Barack comparing himself to JFK, MLK or anyone else. It seems his little soldiers are the ones who are trying to promote him to a legend before his time. I do not know if this is at his instigation. It's this action by said soldiers that have brought the cult-sayers (including me) out of the woodwork. To his detriment, all of you rabid supporters reflect him.

These democratic heroes, including Bill Clinton, should not be used lightly, and a lot of very good democrats resent it. Obama has proven nothing to me at this juncture except that he can draw crowds, as did Hitler, and that he is very suave. Hmmm, he does remind me of Frank Sinatra. Now, don't get me Frankie people. I have no idea if this man can sing. If so, let's get him on American Idol.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:23 PM
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16. One thing to note about all of these men.
l. Two were Presidents of the US, and one was the Democratic nominee for President of the US.

2. All were men of substance with many years of proven service. Obama is one big question mark?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:38 PM
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27. One thing to note about Obama...
Obama's supporters, including myself, vote for him because of his experience,
policies and ability to lead this nation.

I'm voting for Obama because he is a Constitutional Scholar. His knowledge base and commitment
to upholding what our forefathers built, guides his desire to reinstate Habeas Corpus, abolish
illegal wiretaps, end torture, close Guantanamo and reject a Presidency that runs on Bush's "Unitary Executive"
mentality.

By the way---ALL of the people in these pictures were ONCE Presidential Candidates. They all
had enthusiastic supporters and drew large crowds--just like Obama.

Not once---not until we had Bill and Hillary's hate machine going at full speed--were large crowds and
enthusiastic supporters positioned as some kind of disturbing "red flag". According to many
Clinton supporters and the Clinton surrogates, Americans should be alarmed by and suspicious of
candidates who give inspiring speeches, and their supporters should be positioned as non-thinking,
mindless lemmings.

Those of us who support Obama for his ideas and plans--are just a bit offended. So, I'm pointing
out that many great leaders galvanized large, inspired crowds. And that's not a bad thing, regardless
of how the Clintons spin it.



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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:06 PM
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36. See, you speak in riddles.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:08 PM by juajen
What experience?

What policies?

What ideas?

What freakin' plans?


Do not refer me to his website. I have been there. I have read biographies and political history on both Obamas. I have found great big holes. Anybody know why Obama was sent to Hawaii to live with his grandparents and to be schooled privately, but his divorced mom and sister stayed home. Let me see, he was abandoned first by his father, mistreated by his stepfather, then after they divorced, he was sent home to Hawaii to live with grandparents, who then sent him to private schools, where he knew nobody. Seems to me this guy should have some big familial issues. Yet, not a word. Everything was just peachie. Perhaps that would explain the drugs. It is certainly understandable.

Then I read that his wonderful sister who now lives in Hawaii, is a professor and doing just grand. What about the years in Indonesia when Barack was torn from her side to go live in Hawaii. How did she get to Hawaii, where I believe her Mom died. All those years away from his mom and sister, but he was just fine with being shunted off to grandparents?

Then we have his sudden sprint to the Illinois Senate, where he has a very dubious record. You know, one where he voted mistakenly to take away funding for welfare children? "Oops, I made a mistake"? This is ok. Not to mention over 100 "present" votes. If Hillary had done this, ya'll would be on her back "like a duck on june bug".

Then, magically, Jack Ryan is outed and there is a position in the US Senate for Barack Obama, with almost no opposition. God, he's either blessed with incredible luck or someone is moving him. One year in the US Senate and he's now God's gift to presidential candidates.

None of ya'll feeling pushed or used at all?

DO you begin at all to see our cynicism. We on DU are weaned on cynacism, yet you want us to desist being us for your beloved Sparklebama.

DON'T COUNT ON IT, PEOPLE. We are, what we are. Cynical and mistrusting because people have made us so.

That's what gets me. You give him all sorts of passes, and hang on every tiny thing that Hillary has ever done that you don't agree with.

Which would be fine, if this was not someone running for THE BIGGEST OFFICE IN THE WORLD, where experience should count volumes. This is not a trial position. You need to be proven.

Think, please, what you are doing, or not doing, when you vet our candidates.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:25 PM
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18. thanks for illustrating the most important point:
Just because a candidate is wildly popular and a good stump speech giver does NOT mean that they are all appearance and no substance. The two are not mutually exclusive! Sometimes we are lucky enough to get both in the same person.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:26 PM
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19. This is so NOT helpful
...but I know you already knew you were deliberately stirring a hornets nest as you are wont to do. :(
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 PM
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22. what? you got a problem with INCONVENIENT photos to underpin an INCONVENIENT truth now?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:31 PM
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21. K & R

Well said.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:37 PM
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25. I don't know how to upload graphics
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:38 PM by NOLALady
but you forgot the cultists in DC August 28, 1963 with MLK. Now THAT was a group of lemmings with nothing to guide them but Hope.


oops. I see someone did upload it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:59 PM
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35. Heh heh
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:13 PM
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39. Thank you.
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