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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:12 PM
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James Carville as Kerry's running mate
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 12:12 PM by Mattforclark
He is well known from crossfire. He is a fast talker, he can hammer home his points, and he could bring in the bald male vote. And besides, he is a media guy.

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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:12 PM
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1. Disqualified
he talks in his sleep
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:13 PM
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2. So he
could bring in the sleep-talker vote. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:14 PM
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3. Not when Mary Matalin's head is on the other pillow!
:)
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:17 PM
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5. I agree Not with Mary
I really don't like the way she lies and talks down to people.she thinks she is the only one with any brains.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:06 PM
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20. a former hairdresser
Mary washed so many heads, she thinks she's good at brainwashing.

Can't for the life of me understand how Carville loves her, the good-in- the-sack theory be damned. All the good sex in world can't make up for having to put up with her snarling voice, contorted face and deep-seated ugliness of the non-physical kind
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:16 PM
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4. I dunno...I like Carville but I really question anyone who could stomach
being married to Mary Matalin...she must be a demon in the sack or something for him to have put up with her for all these years.
And I don't understand why even he says that Chimpy showed leadership after 9/11...give me one stinkin' example of anything the cretin did that showed true leadership, or was any different than what any other president would have done...
I don't think so...
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:19 PM
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6. Well speaking as a bald male
I'm planning on voting for Kerry anyway, so Carville wouldn't matter. He would be a bad choice though. He looks like he'd just as soon kick somebody's ass as look at them, so maybe he could be a designated ass kicker. Media liason or something like that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:22 PM
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7. Is Carville still working in Venezuela?
http://casavenezuela.org/05persp/articles/economia_stupid.html

SNIP..."The Wall Street Journal, May 23, 2003

Venezuela's embattled private sector is banking on the colorful U.S. political consultant James Carville to help oust leftist President Hugo Chavez. The hire may herald an effort by the anti-Chavistas to focus more on the issues than on personality.

According to several individuals with knowledge of the matter, a group of business executives contracted with Mr. Carville this year to craft a strategy that will unify a fractious and frustrated Chavez opposition and resonate with voters in a possible recall referendum. The executives are hoping that Mr. Carvillethe folksy, 59-year-old Democratic Party consultant from Louisiana known as the Ragin' Cajunwill push a variation of his "It's the economy, stupid" theme that helped propel Bill Clinton to victory in 1992. But analysts say Mr. Carville and his clients face a formidable challenge....."

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:33 PM
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18. That bothers me a lot!
The same crew went & worked in Israeli elections when Clinton was President.

I don't think it's right for American politicos to be involved in foreign elections, regardless of country. They're taking a side, purely for money, & as Americans, it can be confusing as to what our policies are in regard to that country.

Additionally, it's a crass money grab. Aren't there enough political jobs in the US? These guys are not exactly poor!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:20 PM
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23. It bothers me a lot, too.
I think we have no business doing that. Then he has the power of Crossfire to make him look like a good Democrat.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:24 PM
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8. Not on your life! Carville is a whore
Carville has been working for the Venezuelan opposition since last May:


Venezuelan opposition puts American in War Room to help oust President
Wall Street Journal (WSJ) staff reporter Marc Lifsher files from Caracas today that "It's the economia, stupid ... Venezuela's embattled private sector is banking on the colorful US political consultant James Carville to help oust leftist President Hugo Chavez ... the hire may herald an effort by the anti-Chavistas to focus more on the issues than on personality."

(more at link)
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=7584


LTTE regarding this:
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=7585

Add to this the fact that he's been married to Matalin all this time, and you have a man whom I cannot trust, no matter how much hell he raises on Crossfire.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:32 PM
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10. There is never a response when I post this about him.
It is just ignored. I think it is awful, but no one seems to think it is wrong. See my article just above yours.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:42 PM
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11. I've noticed the same thing
I decided I had enough of Carville when I heard he was behind that ridiculous strategy for the 2002 midterms of not attacking Bush's war policies (which led to his wearing a wastebasket on his head on Crossfire after all the loses).

Then, when I first read about Carville's involvement in Venezuela, my first thought was , "It figures...".

I have no more trust for him than I do for Dick Morris.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:55 PM
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12. In fact, it is thread-killer.
Yep, it sure is. Everytime. Like don't go there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:32 PM
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17. Ugh
He was behind the '02 wimpout? AND he's working for anti-Chavez forces???

And to think I used to like this guy. :grr:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:41 PM
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19. He was.
He was also one of the main ones going after Dean on Crossfire and every time he opened his mouth. That was the party using the power of the press, to have Begala and Carville taking every opportunity.

The "playing nice" is part of it, and Dean wanted to speak out too much.

It does not seem to bother anyone else that he has worked to oust Chavez. He and Novak, who outed Plame, still have their voices on Crossfire as legit spokesman. It bothers me he worked the opposition of Chavez.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:32 PM
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25. Oh it bothers me plenty
Whose side is he on?

I understand we need to come together to oust the worst elements of the creeping fascism that's threatening us once again, but after this election I hope a lot of progressives who just got despondent under Clinton will get energized under Kerry. After all, he's our ally!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:25 PM
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9. NO...He won't get any crossover votes . Nary a one!
Republicans hate him! He is also difficult to understand.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:00 PM
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13. Oh yeah, and he could deliver LA
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 01:01 PM by Mattforclark
That's 9 electoral votes. And isn't he pretty tall? Tallness wins votes.

Look at that:



imagine him on a podium... And see, he's popular in Florida!



And he looks good with the flag. Patriotic Carville 1.0:

http://www.autographedtoyou.com/xq/asp/parentid.28/id.995/James+Carville/qx/celebpics/james_carville4.jpg

And look at that emotion. Imagine him against Cheney in a debate. He would go off about McDonalds manufacturing jobs:



And best of all, Ted Kennedy approves.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:09 PM
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22. that's Ted Kennedy?
sure looks like Newt Gingrich to me. Scary thing if a blurry picture can morph Newt to Ted or vice versa.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:27 PM
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24. That's most definitely Newtie
:puke:
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:02 PM
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14. Begala is better than Carville
if we are stuck with picking a VP from CNN political commentary shows.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:08 PM
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15. Nah, Begala is no good.
He's from Texas, and we wouldn't win Texas if we ran Stephen F. Austin/Sam Houston.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:28 PM
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16. Well Matt, this isn't as bizarre as Bob Novak for VP
but it's still pretty wierd.

Carville is a political strategist, & so far his strategy has been pretty lame.

I think being married to you know who is draining his powers.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:07 PM
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21. Ugh.
I can't stomach it when he speaks. He's too aggressive, never mind that he's right. A little bit is admittedly his thick accent (and I'm from the South) and his appearance. Democrat though he may be, he'll do better if he's behind the throne.
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