My friend Morderchai who lives in Israel called me today to say.....

That the peace Loving Jews who lives in his town are rooting for Barack Obama.

He moved back to Israel from San Francisco about three years ago. Since he still owns property in the United States, I still prepare his taxes, and he was calling about faxing me some tax info.

He also said that the dollar isn't worth a thing (he owns rental property here, and so he gets a check every month)....and that it is going down day by day. He said that this war in Iraq is killing the American economy, and he is very upset about it. Mordechai says that he believes that we need more of a change than what the other candidates are offering or represent in order to turn the corner.

I told him that we were working on it.

of Israel?

Obama's Rhetoric Chills Some Supporters of Israel

Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is moving to tamp down concerns among Democratic supporters of Israel with an e-mail from a Florida congressman to Jewish leaders singing the senator’s praises.

“What has always struck me about Senator Obama - and this is one of the reasons that I have endorsed his candidacy for president - is that a love for Israel and a desire to keep the Jewish people secure is evident not just in his work, but also in his heart,” wrote Rep. Robert Wexler (D) in the e-mail, which was sent to a list of Jewish community leaders.

The endorsement, which laid it on thick even by the standards of political communications, reflects a frustration that, despite Obama’s staunch support of the Israeli government in his words and votes, he has been dogged by questions from some of the most vocal and focused representatives of the pro-Israel community.

The root of the matter, as some observers of American Jewish politics see it, may be that Obama’s rhetoric and themes of reconciliation and common ground – the heart of his national popularity – sound off-key and even naïve in the context of a grim, confrontational moment in the Middle East.
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“His approach will appeal to a lot of lefty Jews, but it won’t appeal to the serious players,” she said, referring to the better-organized and better funded groups like the American Israel Public Affairs Council, AIPAC, at whose conference Obama put in an appearance earlier this month.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3177.html
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In other words, Obama has a more even handed honest broker approach to the issues concerning Israel and Palestine. He is NOT a AIPAC enthusiast........unlike Hillary Clinton.

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Meanwhile....

by the New York Times as such....

Clinton Vows to Back Israel in Latest Mideast Conflict

By PATRICK HEALY
Published: July 18, 2006
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday that she supported “whatever steps are necessary” to defend Israel against Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and Syria in the military conflict in the Middle East.
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“We will stand with Israel because Israel is standing for American values as well as Israeli ones,” said Mrs. Clinton, who joined two dozen political and religious leaders on a stage a few blocks from the United Nations headquarters on the East Side.

Bringing the threat home, she compared Israel’s military response, which has included heavy bombardment of Lebanon, to a theoretical response by the United States if it faced attacks from neighboring countries. “I want us here in New York to imagine, if extremist terrorists were launching rocket attacks across the Mexican or Canadian border, would we stand by or would we defend America against these attacks from extremists?” she said to roars of approval.

Mrs. Clinton and the other speakers focused almost exclusively on Israel’s right to act militarily and unilaterally, and the speeches were fiery and resolute, with little mention of civilians in Lebanon and Gaza who have been injured in the fighting.
More....
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/nyregion/18hillary.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

An anathema to AIPAC, I know, but not a bad idea.

That may be true if the comparison is to Kuchinich. It isn't if it is to Clinton or to McCain.

Israel is our ally, but we help Israel best when we tamp down the flames and the hatred and bring about regional diplomacy - as people like Kerry and Biden have called for since 2002! Barack Obama will have an easier time doing this - if only because he can't be as easily dissmissed as anti-Islam.

Just wondering how the vote is going among Jewish Americans living overseas. Same question for any Americans elsewhere. They might be getting an entirely different picture of this election without the Whore Media spin.

has no real state domicile. He will vote in the General, he said.

My brother, who lives in Bangkok (and just arrived today for a two week visit with his family) is very excited about Barack. He said that the Americans that he runs into in Indonesia "hope" but don't believe that we are smart enough to elect this man.

if you have no other address in the USA. Thems' the rulz.

Barack Obama's Middle East Expert

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Question remain

Why would Barack Obama have on his foreign policy staff a man who has been widely criticized for a revisionist history of the Middle East peace process sharply at odds with all other accounts of the proceedings?

Why would Barack Obama give credibility to a man who seems to have an agenda that includes empowering our enemies and weakening our friends and allies?

How did Robert Malley, with a record of writing that reveals a willingness to twist facts to serve a political agenda, come to be appointed by Obama to his foreign staff?

Was it a recommendation of Zbigniew Brzezinski to bring on board another anti-Israel foreign policy expert?

What role did the left-wing anti-Israel activist George Soros play in placing Robert Malley (or for that matter, Brzezinski himself) in a position to influence the future foreign policy of America?

What does it say about Senator Obama's judgment that he appointed a man like Malley to be a top foreign policy advisor?

Or does it speak more to his true beliefs?

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http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/barack_obamas_middle_east_expe.html

Barack Obama's real thinking about Israel and the Middle East continues to be an enigma. The words he chose in an address to AIPAC create a different impression than the composition of his foreign policy advisory team. Several advisors have evidenced a history of suspicion and worse toward Israel. One of his advisors in particular, Robert Malley, clearly warrants attention, as does the reasoning that led him to being chosen by Barack Obama.

A little family history may be in order to understand the genesis of Robert Malley's views. Normally, one should be reluctant in exploring a person's family background -- after all, who would want to be held responsible for the sins of one's father? However, when close relatives share a strong current of ideological affinity, and when a father has a commanding persona, it behooves a researcher to inquire a bit into the role of family in forming views. That said, Robert Malley has a very interesting father.

His father Simon Malley was born to a Syrian family in Cairo and at an early age found his métier in political journalism. He participated in the wave of anti-imperialist and nationalist ideology that was sweeping the Third World. He wrote thousands of words in support of struggle against Western nations. In Paris, he founded the journal Afrique Asie; he and his magazine became advocates for "liberation" struggles throughout the world, particularly for the Palestinians.

Simon Malley loathed Israel and anti-Israel activism became a crusade for him-as an internet search would easily show. He spent countless hours with Yasser Arafat and became a close friend of Arafat. He was, according to Daniel Pipes, a sympathizer of the Palestinian Liberation Organization --- and this was when it was at the height of its terrorism wave against the West . His efforts were so damaging to France that President Valerie d'Estaing expelled him from the country.

Malley has seemingly followed in his father's footsteps: he represents the next generation of anti-Israel activism. Through his writings he has served as a willing propagandist, bending the truth (and more) to serve an agenda that is marked by anti-Israel bias; he heads a group of Middle East policy advisers for a think-tank funded (in part) by anti-Israel billionaire activist George Soros; and now is on the foreign policy staff of a leading Presidential contender. Each step up the ladder seems to be a step closer towards his goal of empowering radicals and weakening the ties between American and our ally Israel.

Robert Malley's writings strike me as being akin to propaganda. One notable example is an op-ed that was published in the New York Times (Fictions About the Failure at Camp David). The column indicted Israel for not being generous enough at Camp David and blamed the failure of the talks on the Israelis.

Malley has repeated this line of attack in numerous op-eds over the years, often co-writing with Hussein Agha, a former adviser to Yasser Arafat (see, for example, Camp David: The Tragedy of Errors ). He was also believed to be the chief source for an article by Deborah Sontag that whitewashed Arafat's role in the collapse of the peace process, an article that has been widely criticized as riddled with errors and bias.

Malley is a revisionist and his views are sharply at odds with the views of others who participated at Camp David, including Ambassador Dennis Ross and President Bill Clinton. Malley's myth-making has been peddled in the notably anti-Israel magazine, Counterpunch and by Norman Finkelstein, the failed academic recently denied tenure at DePaul University . Malley's Camp David propaganda has also become fodder for Palestinians, Arab rejectionists, and anti-Israel activists across the world.


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Daniel "Crack" Pipes is a genocidal Muslim hating bastard, and was one of Rudy 9u11ani's advisers.

Are you sure you want to be quoting that piece of shit?

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Just because there are dozens of Hillbots and DLC interns here doesn't mean all campaigns do that. Nah, my campaign experience is more the old fashioned kind. And I'm not even doing that this year. Not yet anyway......

And none of this changes the fact that Daniel Pipes is a lying fascist piece of filth who should never be quoted on this web site.

all Muslims are part of the radical terrorist Islamic agenda, therefore they should ALL be viewed as the enemy?

It's great to hear that peace-loving Israelis support Obama!

from that performing troupe, "The peace loving Jews".

How kind of Frenchie to invite us in again on her stream of consciousness posting .

Still posting the usual swill of your Zen posting style, I see. Whats next? Mordechai reviews the local bagel shop, or how you prepare his taxes? I'm anxiously waiting for Mordechai to weigh in on our looming recession and Obama's plans to get us out of it.

Mordechai is just so damned relevant, right?

My friend Ibthzak voted for Edwards, actually.

"MORDERCHAI", or how Frenchie will find any way to frame some maniacal cut and paste article. Her unique "style" is well known.

I'm glad to see she has some "Ibseraeli" "Jewmish" friends, who aren't fearful of Obama's legendary antipathy among American Jews, based on his anti-Israeli sentiments. Isn't it nice that Frenchie has some real Jewish friends?

The warmongering ones are all voting for Hillary and hope to start World War III.

:nuke: :rofl:

:loveya: :rofl:

Show me how Obama is anti-Israel. Saying it doesn't make it so.

How, as Frenchie would say, not very "kewl".

If you can, that is.

Obama supports Israel. Period.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=832667&contrassID=25&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=1

Obama: Opponents trying to weaken my support in Jewish community
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/948960.html

You are distorting the facts.

Thats what you call only giving ONE SIDE of the story....like you have.

The other side:

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank03162007.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0907/5783.html


Anytime you want to represent a point of view, be sure to include the side that isn't too flattering.

The comment, "Palestinians Suffer More Than Israelis ... And Will Continue to Do So", is exactly why most American Jews are anti-Obama. In other words, ANTIPATHY defines their feelings perfectly....just as I said.

But, hey, thanks for allowing me to put the wit and witticisms of Frenchie on display again!

The simple fact is the living standards among Palestinians is MUCH worse than Israelis.

You claim that Obama has "anti-Israeli sentiments" (!), but the articles don't back that up:



It is ironic that you are quoting CounterPunch to show "the other side" (!). Did you actually read the article? Did you understand why Joshua Frank doesn't "trust" Obama "on the issue"?

It is a fact that more Palestinians have died in this tragic conflict (of course, that doesn't justify Palestinian terror). Perhaps you don't like to hear that, but I believe that we need a president who doesn't just tell people what they want to hear, but tells everyone what they need to know.

she said she is "fired up. ready to go." for Obamer!1"

:spray:

According to J. magazine, the Jewish News Weekly of Northern California, (jweekly.com), an American Jewish Committe poll found that Hillary's approval rating among Jewish Democrats was 70%, and among all Jews it was 53%. Obama's rating among all Jews was 38%.

And as far as this thread is concerned, a couple of Israelis are not ALL Israelis. Israelis put Americans to shame in terms of political involvement, with a voter turnout of up to 90% when they have elections. Ha'aretz is a left-wing publication.

American Jews prefer Hillary by large margins, similar to her margins among Latinos, Asians, and GLBT folk.

I like how French subtly implies that if you don't vote for Barack you are not peace loving...

Thanks for the scoop!