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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:04 PM
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Obama wins yet another state and Hillary predictably does something to steal the news cycle.
I have to hand it to the DINO/DLC, pro-corporatist sorry excuse for a democrat, Hillary. She certainly knows how to manipulate the MSM to deflect coverage from stories that are unflattering to her "inevitability."

J
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:08 PM
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1. Actually she deflects coverage with the even worseness of her campaign
I don't see how this is good news.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:14 PM
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5. The logic is "any news is better than coverage of your opponent" Good, bad, they'll take anything.
The main idea is to clutter up the positive news about your opponent. Bill did this in his re-election campaign. If anything this sort of media muss-up strategy has the hallmarks of James Carvile.

J
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:20 PM
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12. you are right they are sandwiched in between 3 bad days (including Tuesday)
Tomorrow will be their good news try with endorsements.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:09 PM
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2. This Election We Learn of a Great Divide in the Democratic Party
Those in line with the DINO/DLC, pro-corporatists and those for populists who represent the people the true democratic way.

Our party has been infiltrated by powers that align itself with the GOP and their powerful corporate masters.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:16 PM
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9. Right, but it isn't new this year. You are just seeing it now. n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:21 PM
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Not New... Just Much More in Your Face
Our political party is at a cross roads: corporate vs populist


It's much more obvious now than ever.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:21 PM
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13. I assume you came of age during the Bush years.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:22 PM
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16. Politically? Yes.....
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 07:30 PM by fascisthunter
Many more like me who are becoming politically involved because of the Bush years. We generally don't care for the direction of this party. As for the Republican Party????? They have lost a long time ago.....

The Democratic Party is now making the same mistake the GOP was created to make: corporate, elitest servitude.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:29 PM
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24. Yep. This struggle has been going on for over a hundred years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:31 PM
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25. Within the Country
now the party that was supposed to represent the poor, middle class is now leaving it's roots. AT least the leadership is trying....


I hope I'm in the way.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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28. Oh, yes, within the party, too. WJB and the "Bourbon Democrats" fought each other tooth and nail.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM by Occam Bandage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourbon_Democrats
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:44 PM
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29. I Guess Some Republicans Are Right to a Point
The Democratic party isn't really cracked up to be what they claim to be... too many posers have compromised the party's principles.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:22 PM
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15. Edwards lost with an average of 15% outside of Iowa
The corporate wing has won.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:24 PM
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20. Only on the Surface... perception is only a tiny part of the equation
it's how we react to perception, which is the trick... it aint working.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:26 PM
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22. Damn straight! It's high time to return the Democratic Party to its populist roots.
The DINO/DLCers can run back to the enemy camp. Enough of their "destroy the Democratic party from within" bullshit.

J
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:28 PM
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23. Thank You
and cheers!


:toast:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:11 PM
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3. Yeah, I thought of that too. But it didn't work - she's already been bumped from
lead item thanks to BO's win in Maine.

Wow - she can't catch a break, huh? Looks like karma really does exist!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:12 PM
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4. Did she tear up again? That's always good for 2 news cycles..
at least. :shrug:
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:15 PM
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7. Canned her campaign manager on the same day and around the same time as the Maine results.
News releases on Sundays are odd...unless you are interested in cluttering up the news cycle to deflect attention from another victory by your opponent.

J
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Altec Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:14 PM
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6. This makes no sense....
Hillary does not want the story to be about her failing campaign running out of money and firing its advisors? You are stupid to suggest that this is another part of her master plan.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:18 PM
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10. No, sir/mam, it is you who is stupid. What she is doing is standard media manipulation.
The fact that you can't recognize it reinforces the effectiveness of the theory of "any news about yourself is better than positive news about your opponent."
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Altec Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:22 PM
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17. Obama is constantly covered...
If Clinton had so much media manipulation, Obama wouldn't have gotten the most favorable coverage of any candidate an election has ever seen. If she could paint pictures as well as Obama's campaign, she would not be in this position.

Even when Clinton is losing, why must Obama supporters keep stirring up that she is somehow pulling strings? If anything, you've fallen for the rhetoric that she is the establishment Big Brother.

Open your eyes. And if you support Obama, than posting things like this is contrary to his message.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:16 PM
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8. GAWD! will you people grow up!
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:19 PM
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11. So, is Edwards going to be a hypocrite and endorse Clinton? n/t
J
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:21 PM
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14. Thanks for proving ashling's point
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:23 PM
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19. Didn't answer my question, though. Clinton was Edwards nemesis during the primaries.
Edwards' wife endorsed Obama, but now we have to wonder if all the bluster against Clinton during the primaries was fluff and now he's looking to cut himself a deal.

J
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:32 PM
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27. When did Edwards' wife endorse Obama?
Clinton was the front runner. Everyone guns for the front runner.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:32 PM
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26. Do I look like John Edwards?
He doesn't consult with me on everything he does - otherwise he would be the next president of these here United States.

However, I am proud to say I am an American and I know that either of the Dem candidates is way better for my country than any Republican.

And if that is not obvious to you ... well, you can choke on your noodley appendage.
:rofl:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:23 PM
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18. Suppose you could have put a few more buzzwords into your post?
Redstone
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:25 PM
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21. Yep, even thought Williams has been on board since right after New Hampshire
the news comes out during the weekend where Clinton loses 5 contests and heading into a week where she's shaky in three more contests.
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