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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:39 PM
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Who's this Mario character people keep talking about?
Color me confused. :shrug:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:40 PM
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1. Then-Governor Cuomo of New York.
He had a plane fueling on the tarmac in Albany to fly up to New Hampshire in 1992 just ahead of the filing deadline for the primary.

A call came in -- or went out -- and after that call, he went out to the tarmac, paid the pilot for his troubles, and told him to put the plane back in the hangar.


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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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3. Is THAT why he didn't end up in the running? Interesting...nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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6. The content of the call is a mystery. Whatever it was, it was enough for
him to cancel the flight and not file for the primary, effectively taking him out of consideration for the presidency.

IMO we are the less for it.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:46 PM
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9. I have to agree with that.
I love Mario Cuomo.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:48 PM
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11. Blue_In-AK! Howdy. Good to see you kicking around here tonight. And yes,
Cuomo was the peach barrel on the autumn porch.

I'm homesick for something I never had.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:41 PM
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20. He was a great guy, you are right we are the less for it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:43 PM
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4. That's a day that changed the course of history
Mario Cuomo is VERY high on my list "What could have been" people. So is JFK and his brother and his son. Al Gore is there, too.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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7. Husb2Sparkly, I'm with you on that whole list. Absolutely.
:thumbsup:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:45 PM
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8. Me too.. I always think about JFK, John Jr, RFK and Gore, kinda scary.
Wonder if we'll ever know about Mario.. that's more than creepy.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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5. Any speculation on what happened, OC?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:47 PM
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10. Hi, Inspired. VERY good question. I really don't know. I've talked with
folks in NYC now and again, and all that's really discussed is that Cuomo offered not to contend for the nomination if Clinton, were he to be nominated, would offer a position in the Cabinet for Mario's son Andrew.

But that is pure guesswork. To my knowledge, no one but Cuomo and the person he was talking to really knows.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:51 PM
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13. The only thing is, Clinton was the epitome of a dark horse candidate at the time
With no national clout or name. I find it a bit hard to believe.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:53 PM
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14. It's an actual account about the plane.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:35 PM by Old Crusoe
And his office was a stone's throw from the New Hampshire border, remember, so there was heavy speculation about Cuomo's entering the race. Many New Hampshire Democrats liked him quite well, and properly so.

You're right -- Clinton's numbers placed him firmly in the "dark horse" category. Paul Tsongas eventually won the thing.

The New Hampshire Primary in 1992 was not the only important race for the nomination, but winning it would have been a good start for anybody.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:33 PM
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18. I remember that well - there were a lot of shadowy things going on in those days.
In the time just prior to the 92 election, there was John Kerry on Iran/contra and BCCI, Henry Gonzales on Iraqgate (who armed Saddam) Lawrence Walsh closing in on Iran-contra stuff, Operation Green Merchant (DEA copters landing in yards)and a lot more - in this environment, there were rumors of a struggle for power to see wgo would be the challenger to Poppy Bush. In a way, this could be seen as a dem chapter in "the Yankee and Cowboy War" - the fight between old money new England posse vs the newer Southern/western gang.

Mario is a brilliant guy, and at the time it was rumored that he might have been offered a seat on the Supreme Court. He gave a great speech at the convention, and I had visions, like others here, of Cuomo/Gore, then gore/Kerry - and a generation of progress. It was hoped that Weinberger and Poindexter, Reich and Negroponte, Secord and others would see justice. Instead, we got Clinton, who thought it too important to "work with these guys" and that was that.

good thing the Bushes never were heard from again, or Saddam ......oh..........riight.........
Life works out differently. so it goes.


(This was before that whole Information superhighway thing was popular, so info was passed differently.
It took more time to find out what the heck was going on.
Whatever happened to that superhighway thing? Gore was such a dreamer.)


Hey, strange times.

Now we are at another era change, after another Bush fiasco.
What will we do?
will it be different?
Are there parallels of the yankee/cowboy money fight and the folks behind Obama vs the clinton/DLC?
Or is it more mixed up now?

We each have to make our decisions about that.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:38 PM
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19. Very thought-provoking post. I'm not feeling up to predicting an answer for
your good questions.

Strange days have found us, and it looks like they were here all along.

We're in the primary/caucus season now and so it feels better, because each person who stood in line to vote this winter so far is casting votes for a new president, casting votes in the process that will replace the one we have, who cheated to get there in the first place.

Cuomo on the Supreme Court would have been a terrific counterbalance to that monster, Scalia.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 AM
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22. Strange days indeed - ripe with danger and potential, in uncertain measure.

This last wilderness was a rough one.
oil empires, and all that.
Hard work. Ho hum.
Manipulation, mindfuck, fear.
(They create their own reality, I hear.)


Enjoyable as always, OC.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:20 AM
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23. Bongo Prophet, right back to you with genuine
appreciation.

I would praise your posts but prefer to think of them as poems. My guess is your bookshelf is a damned enchanted glen.

Happy trails.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:12 PM
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21. I remember the climate at the time that a repuke was a certain win and any dem was a sacrifical
candidate at best...nobody expected a dem, even less Clinton would win. NOBODY.

Bushdaddy was INEVITABLE and had all the MOMENTUM!

sound familiar now to anybody?!?
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:21 AM
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24. Hey, this time we're in it to win it! Keep hope alive.
Remember "the new covenant?"
Bridge to the 21st century.
Man from Hope.

Tried it, but didn't inhale.

;)
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:42 PM
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2. He would have made an excellent president!
I've admired him for a long time and he's always worth listening to.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:51 PM
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12. Agree with you, shraby. I saw him a handful of times in person in NYC and
my god, he could wind up a sentence in English and wrap the joint up with it. He has a depth and the gift of communicating it.

Pericles-like.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:55 PM
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15. ???


:shrug:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:07 PM
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17. No, not THAT Mario. (Although he is terribly well dressed...)
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:07 PM
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16. Some character in a video game
Used to go up against a big monkey.
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