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I'll say it again: if Hillary cannot break 40% in any contest on Tuesday, she NEEDS to step aside.

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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:17 PM
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I'll say it again: if Hillary cannot break 40% in any contest on Tuesday, she NEEDS to step aside.
The democratic electorate is rejecting her candidacy, and forcing Obama to fight her until the very last end will be counterproductive.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:17 PM
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1. No, she doesn't. Everyone has strong states and weak states.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:18 PM
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3. Hillary has 22 of them.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:37 PM
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She barely lost Missouri, and she did decently in Connecticut.
Maybe 20 of them after Tuesday.
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HopeforChange Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:36 PM
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12. Please Don't Underestimate the People of Texas
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:43 PM
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18. Her weak states just happen to number 35 to 40
lol.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:52 PM
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19. Also not sure we should take party direction from very liberal Red Staters that can't deliver State
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:57 PM
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21. This is just stupid rhetoric
nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:18 PM
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2. She will after TX and OH (maybe PA) if she doesn't get 40% Why wouldn't she?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:19 PM by joshcryer
Obama would have run away with it to the point that MI and FL won't matter and basically Hillary is mathematically done.

Sorry, I misread your topic so this isn't exactly what you said. I'm really out of it tonight. She won't drop out until she loses TX and OH and PA.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:18 PM
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4. I agree and she is on the bubble in Maryland and VA.
DC should ot count against her though.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:19 PM
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5. nice post
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ctaylors6 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:21 PM
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6. I think she needs to wait at least until 3/4 for TX & OH and maybe PA too
she's about tied now in delegates and another month or even 2 won't matter.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:22 PM
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7. Yes, you have said it again and again and again.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:22 PM
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8. That's probably what will happen
The party will soon ask her to drop out. I've been predicting it for weeks.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:29 PM
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9. If you think Hill is going to drop out for the good of the party, you don't know the Hill i know.
I'm hoping she stays in until Montana puts Obama over the top on June 3rd and we get to elect the next President.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:32 PM
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11. You are so right, shes willing to destroy the party to get what she wants
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:33 PM by angie_love
And she wants to be president, everyone else be damned.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:42 PM
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17. I'm not sure I'd get that dramatic, but Hill isn't going to end this unless she tanks
in Ohio, Texas, or PA.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:03 PM
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:28 PM
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24. Do you really think you're going to fool anyone for long with Freeperish innuendo like that?
I can't believe that nearly half the people on this forum still blindly support and defend this destructive and selfish woman


Those words are the same exact words that assholes like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity spew. Enjoy your feeble Right Wing remarks while you can, though!

Good gawd
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:30 PM
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10. I'm sure she'll read your post, and respond to your orders.
Redstone
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:37 PM
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13. Mike Huckabee's still in it for godsakes. Why would Hillary drop out?
She's in it till March 4 at the latest. This thread might make sense after then, but not now. Give it a rest.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:39 PM
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14. There have sure been a lot of calls for Hillary to drop out.
What about letting the People vote?

Obama followers don't seem to have much taste for Democracy except when the superdelegate issue is raised.

--p!
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:40 PM
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16. then, they want to change the rules
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:40 PM
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15. From an Obama supporter..She needs to step aside when she has lost
She hasn't yet.
I believe she will in the end.
Whats the hurry?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:57 PM
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20. If she cracks 40% on Tuesday, she needs to be at about 60% after
That's a big, big hurdle. If she does worse than 40% on Tuesday, she needs to exceed 60% thereafter --an even bigger hurdle.

She doesn't just need to win TX OH and PA, she needs to crush in them.

However, the only big state she came close to 60% was NY.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:02 PM
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22. Don't underestimate her.
She'll win somewhere pretty soon.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:58 PM
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31. People always crack me up
I'm obviously a new Obama supporter, but Nobody should ever "misunderestimate" the power and tactics of the "Clinton machine" She won't be out of it until she decides to end it. She can still manipulate all of the superdelegates, as well as WI, OH, TX, PA delegates in her column. If she's only slightly behind, she'll successfully have the FL and MI delegates seated. Couple this with the upcoming Edwards endorsement, and the table could turn very, very quickly. Obama hasn't won jack.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:31 PM
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25. She's going to have to do it to salvage her legacy...
...and her relationship with the African American community. At this point having two candidates is creating problems for the Dems, which is obvious by reading the posts on this message board.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:36 PM
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26. As an Obama delegate...
...I feel that Hillary has the right and the obligation to get her message out until SHE decides it's time to quit...not you. No disrespect intended, friend.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:45 PM
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30. I prefer Obama to Clinton, but I'm glad to see Obama backers resisting the "She should drop out" BS
The polls say she'll do poorly in three primaries this Tuesday. So what? She and Obama will still be approximately tied in delegates, so there's no basis for saying that either of them should drop out.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 PM
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27. Nobody needs to step aside
I wish Kucinich and Edwards especially, and others as well, had not stepped aside.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:18 PM
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28. You know...I'm tired of this step aside stuff.
I don't like HRC, but jeez, lets let the voters actually get a chance to decide who they want, even though there are only 2 or 3 candidates left.

Lets hear them all out.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:27 PM
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29. I have big problems with Clinton, but I DON'T KNOW Obama!
I'd like to get to know Obama a little bit better before I trust him with the fate of the planet. So I hope Clinton stays in the race.

Suppose Hillary drops out next week, and next month we find out some disqualifying or embarrasing fact about his Chicago past from Obama, or he displays some flaw in character. Or there's a Karl Rove clone in McCain's campaign setting up some skullduggery.

More debates, more research, more sharpening of positions.

And my state doesn't vote until April.

<Breaks into song> Getting to know you
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:59 PM
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32. pfft.
so says Unsane
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:01 PM
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33. It's good practice for Obama. He'll be dealing with much of the same from McCain.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:23 PM
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34. IS that a written rule?
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