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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:50 PM
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My prediction for the upcoming weeks.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 09:52 PM by Drunken Irishman
Take it with a grain of salt. This is just how I see it.

These numbers will just include both candidates, so they won't account for other cadidates/undecideds.

Tuesday:

DC - O: 75%, C: 25%
Virginia: O: 64%, C: 36%
Maryland: O: 68%, C: 32%

Feb. 19th:

Hawaii: O: 65%, C: 35%
Wisconsin: O: 51, C: 49

I'm not going to predict Ohio and Texas, because if Obama wins the next 5 states, I think the polls there will dramatically change.

Clinton needs to win Wisconsin to stop the bleeding. If she can't, it'll be very difficult for her to stop Obama's momentum. So while people say Ohio and Texas are her firewall, I believe it's Wisconsin.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:54 PM
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1. Whoa. Is Hillary currently expected to win in any of these states you mention?
And I do agree that if O does take them all, it would have a definite effect on TX and WI.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:55 PM
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2. I think the only one is Wisconsin.
And even that isn't expected, though the latest poll had her up 9.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:07 PM
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6. Thanks! nt
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:20 PM
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7. No - all are expected to be defeats - Wisconsen is open primary w/ GOP saying to vote Obama to stop
Hillary

Plus Madison will do the usual college thing and pretend women have nothing to overcome so only Obama represents change.
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:25 PM
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8. Those damn college students!
And their rock and roll music!

Question: how much of the voting will be decided by those leeching off society? You cited them as key to Obama's Maine victory, and I was wondering how they will effect Wisconsin.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:21 AM
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12. leeching off society -or parents - or trust funds - or self employed and can take time off
or are have a teaching or research schedule where time at office is not enforced by their University.

Madison is a great Dem area that is also the home of the state university, while Milwaukee's black population will have bought Obama's race card ploy and be voting 85% Obama. There are few, if any, other large population Democratic party areas (other areas split more evenly). The GOP have been told to vote for Obama (it is an "open" primary so they can vote in the Dem primary). It is hard to see a way Obama can lose Wisconsin in the primary - or win it in the general. The GOP seem confident of victory if the contest is Obama/McCain, simply on the commander in chief issue (vets are a very large leadership group in Wisconsin). Hillary would I think win Wisconsin by a very small margin. If the economy is rotten in October re farm product/forest sales then any Dem could win Wisconsin.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:56 PM
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3. I think Wisconsin will also be affected...
...by this long string of decisive Obama wins.

I predict he gets Wisconsin by at least 10. Wisconsin is very similar
to Washington State. It's a very Progressive state and the home of many
large universities that are very liberal. I expect Wisconsin to be similar to
Washington State.

He'll get DC, Virginia and Maryland by very large margins--like the
ones you are predicting.

After those successive wins, the dominoes will fall one by one in Obama's
favor.

There's no stopping it now.

He's got momentum and he's won handily in states where she was previously up by
20 points. The shift has happened and it's going in Obama's favor.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:58 PM
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4. It's possible.
Momentum is key in politics, even though many want to ignore its influence.

I mean, look at what happened with McCain. He wins New Hampshire and becomes a contender and then, even though he is neck and neck with Romney, barely beats Romney in Florida and automatically becomes the frontrunner.

If the news focuses on Obama's victories this week, especially if they are by wide margins, it will play a role in the Wisconsin results.

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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:00 PM
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5. Wisconsin. Didn't the Repukes nearly win it in 2004? Came within 1/2 of a point as I remember.
Remember, primaries and generals are two different things.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:28 PM
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9. You are Nicer than I am when it comes to Wisconsin.
DC: O: 76, C: 22
MD: O: 64, C: 32
VA: O: 65, C: 33

Feb 19th

Hawaii: O: 65, C: 35
Wisconsin: O: 59, C: 37
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 PM
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10. I am very cautious with my predictions.
:D
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:36 PM
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11. As a Wisconsin resident
I have seen more Obama enthusiasm than Hil, honestly. I agree with hmnnf.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:15 AM
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16. what are the democratic cities in wisconsin?
milwaukee is obviously going to go for obama but what about green bay? also does madison matter?lol the population according to city-data is only like 7000,
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:18 AM
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17. Um, Madison's population is like 250,000
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:22 AM
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18. o ok. and it seems to favor obama?
because im a dork i looked it up on city-data and for some reason on city-data i saw it saying 7000 lol.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:25 AM
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13. Wisconsin is the new firewall.
I think you might be onto something here.

It's the Supermajorities, stupid. It's not so much the victories in February as it is the margin of victory. This kind of thing snowballs.

This is not post-Iowa, the thing the Clinton camp likes to point back to as to how they can repeat New Hampshire.

This is post-Super-Tuesday, we're talking about here.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:58 AM
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15. Do you think Hillary really has the groundswell inside Ohio?
:shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:54 AM
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14. My weather predictions:
Very frosty temperatures inside the Clinton household
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