Are HRC people EVER gonna stop saying that Obama's wins don't count?

Folks, didn't your parents teach you about being good sports?

I know it's tough right now, but you aren't helping your candidate by going into denial.

You need to accept that each victory counts as much as each other victory.

Is that really so hard?

Only election contests that favor Hillary count, didn't you know that. Because deep down everyone is a Hillary supporter. Even those who aren't, are.

They can't face the reality that their candidate sucks hard and isn't really that good. So they have to blame it on the process. I don't recall them ever complaining about it before. But after she loses, they complain.

Next they will say that Obama didn't really win all those southern primaries because black people don't really count either.

Especially against McCain. Alot of reddish-purple states can become bluish-purple.

And you think Hillary is considered a potentially great commander-in-chief?

You Clinton supporters have a lot of audacity, hey? Me thinks you confuse spin with reality. No one sees Hillary as the better candidate against McCain but Hillary supporters; just as nobody sees Hillary as a better potential Commander In Chief but Clinton supporters.

It's funny, that Obama supporters are always accused of being part of a cult, yet it's the Clinton supporters that are delusional.

I don't know how this particular talking point started circulating DU but it makes no sense at all.

The states which Clinton won which you I guess consider states we can win she won by only a tiny margin. This point would have substance if one candidate was blowing out another candidate in blue states. But its not happening. Either candidate is excellently positioned against John McCain to carry the so called Blue States. Neither one is having any problems there.

Almost every one of Clinton's state victories were by a very narrow margin. By contrast, most of Obama's victories were by significant margins drastically larger than Clinton's victories.

If hillary is the nominee, great - she gets my vote. But this talking point is just silly.

n/t.

The only Hillary wins in "true blue" states are Massachusetts, California, New York, and New Jersey.

She's picked up four swing states (New Mexico, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Arizona) in addition, but with 1, 3, 6, and 9% leads. Not decisive.

Finally, she's won three states that I doubt we will win in the general election (Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Tennessee).

Obama, on the other hand, has won primaries in such conservative bastions as Washington, Connecticut, Minnesota, and Illinois.

You're right. Obama doesn't do well in liberal states. :(

:shrug:

He had a great week and he'll have a great month. Don't let yourself be goated.

to just be coincidence. And the "Obama only gets yuppie votes" meme as well.

Yes the guy did have a great week. And I'm hardly "goated". Just pointing out a pattern.

Did you see how many people took away Clinton's win on Super Tuesday?

That's what happens here. Someone wins and the other side takes a big shit on it. It will never end. If you make a retort thread to theirs, it's putting a cherry on their sundae.

I'm 100% Clinton but Obama had a great week. Yeah I am not thrilled about holding caucuses but a win is a win is a win.

The race goes on and soon DU citizens will be able to send electric shock messages to people who oppose their candidate and both Clinton and Obama people will be writing this thread "Stop Fucking Shocking Me!!"

...some people were poor sports then, and some are poor sports now.

Btw, it's "goaded," not "goated." :hi:

but it's cool you were anal retentive enough to notice. You rock!!

I can't tell if the person genuinely doesn't know how the word is spelled. So I say something as politely as possible. Typos do not=lack of smarts by any means.

and re-read the posts

it still going on. http://www.sos.nh.gov/recountresults-rep.htm I can't imagine why people have any doubts regarding the tabulations of our voting systems. Sore losers all of them. Except of course for Kerry, who didn't stand up and insist we count the votes that couldn't be counted. Funny how things change.

:hi:

when we lose Idaho, Utah, Texas, and Mississippi in the General Election. :P

...although there are some here who will still claim that his wins didn't really mean anything...

:D

May the best Democrat win!

It just reminds me of a lot of the dismissiveness towards each Jesse Jackson victory in '88. Nobody would've said the Michigan Caucus didn't mean anything if DUKAKIS had taken it.

Let them alone.

And just in time for when you lose the underdog position, too.

I'd like to know where all these posts are that say small states don't count. I've seen a couple, but I've seen even MORE Obama-follower posts complaining about it.

For the record, the wins are exactly what they are. A smallish number of delegates recently, but to Obama's gain none the less.

Hillary, Obama, whoever -- Wishful thinking is death in politics.

--p!

Did you see how many people took away Clinton's win on Super Tuesday?

That's what happens here. Someone wins and the other side takes a big shit on it. It will never end. If you make a retort thread to theirs, it's putting a cherry on their sundae.

I'm 100% Clinton but Obama had a great week. Yeah I am not thrilled about holding caucuses but a win is a win is a win.

The race goes on and soon DU citizens will be able to send electric shock messages to people who oppose their candidate and both Clinton and Obama people will be writing this thread "Stop Fucking Shocking Me!!"

All the Maines and Nebraskas of the world don't hold a candle to California, Ohio, Texas, etc...

Prove that he can win in the major leagues, then we'll see.

n/t.

I live in New Hampshire, and am well-aware and readily acknowledge that Clinton winning here is not on the same level as her winning California.

That is my story and I am sticking to it!! :sarcasm:

Seriously though I prefer Hillary but if Obama wins the nomination I will still vote for him.

n/t.

at least not the more vitriolic one's that post here. I've never witnessed anything like it...like wild rabid dogs, frothing at the mouth. Savage beasts.

You'll also never see me gloat over a Hillary win. And it was very, very tempting, after California.

She was supposed to blow him out of the water.

And six weeks before that, she was supposed to run the table on super Tuesday.

She seems to "supposed to" do a lot of things.... like win Maine today.

...then why do you feel compelled to rub MY face in the dirt?

Christ Almighty, every time you have a chance NOT to shit on an HRC supporter who ISN'T fucking with you, you take the low road.

Why? Seriously: Why do you feel so compelled to skull-fuck every HRC supporter at every opportunity?

Because I thought you might be different from the rest.

I'm sad to say you're very much like them.


If this is what we're facing come November I weep for the future.

There is a faction in the party that thinks small, mostly rural, "red" states are worthless and should be disregarded. Some even say that the South should re-secede and form its own right-wing country, and anyone -- either liberals in the South or conservatives everywhere else -- should either migrate to the place friendly to their ideology, or STFU. It's disgusting and it is the exact mentality that "Mudcat" Saunders attacked so hard last year, earning him the hatred of the Internet. But he was right. To elitists, these states really don't count for anything.

Hillary to have an easy road to the nomination. They don't know how to handle this