Good analysis of Feb. 19 Wisconsin primary ... link

looks like both sides have some advantages, should be a good contest. My personal guess is that it will be so close that one candidate only ends up winning a few net delegates, though.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=716415

GOTV is a big deal. if there isn't one you should get a couple of people together and start one in your area and go door-to-door. That is what we have done in VA, last week the national campaign arrived and they are directing us now. It has been a great experience.

I work right next to the main HQ in Madison. There are a couple here. Milwaukee has a large HQ as well.

though a lot of madison is near Laundry 101.

I'm preparing to apply to the La Follette School for my senior year for the accelerate program there.

Haha! If I ever have a complete emergency I'll message you if I can't find anyone else. :-)

I live here too. Where abouts do you live?

How did you like the cold today?

What time are you going over to the Kohl center?

I can run over here, get something to drink and then go. I'll get a late dinner. :-) I still lean voting Hillary in the primary, but I am excited at what Obama is doing to mobilize my friends. They're the most apathetic bunch you've ever seen and now they're nearly as excited as I normally am. Something must be working. I might change my mind.

There will def be an over flow crowd tomorrow.

Whatcha majoring in? Econ and history here.

What classes are you in?

I'm taking Chinese History 342 and then I have to do the Seminar thing. I'm taking Econ Stats 310 and Public Utilities 325 for my econ. I just need one more class there. Then I'm taking Portuguese Lit in Translation for my Comm. B credits. I'm trying to put together my application for the La Follette School at the moment.

I need to take two more and the seminar.

I actually stumbled into one while trying to put together a European concentration called "Modern Worlds". It says I fulfilled it.

However, people should not underestimate how many Democrats are in Waukesha. They are often a neglected bunch. I know this because I was one from 2000-2005 until I moved to Madison. Much more at home here.

And he will do very well in Milwaukee.

because they are so outnumbered by the Republicans in the area. In 2004, over 110,000 Democratic votes came from Waukesha, Washington, and Ozaukee counties put together. That's more than Madison proper. We're an overlooked group. I say "we" due to the fact nobody thinks any Democrats live in those counties.

I think Obama will do very well in Southern Wisconsin, close to the Illionis border, as well as Racine, where he was endorsed by the Mayor.

calls for Obama and he asked me where he could do the most good. I told him that Madison was pretty damn well covered. I said work on District 5. There's a good number of Democrats there, but we're overlooked by most politicians. They tend to have college educations and high incomes, well at least my Democratic family does. ;-)

in Waukesha. It's nuts there. I lived there for 8 years and it was nasty if you have Democratic leanings.

I remembering reading that in the Daily cardinal a couple of years ago, and I was thinking about how backwards this state could be.

Some of it is close to Nazi-esque and I don't use that term lightly. We are talking eugenics and genocide here.

just wondering. a poll suggested he's losing by like 9 in wisconsin...

And the University is the big thing in Madison. Plus the anti-war activists, and its a big progressive town.

I realize its a caucus state, but still.

between the two campaigns?

this one won't count ;)

Wisconsin votes the same day as Hawaii. I think Wisconsin will be "you can't really count it" and Hawaii will be "you absolutely can't even think about counting that one". I think both New York and Arkansas should count

Open primaries favor Obama so he will win.

An open primary is one where Republicans can vote in the Democratic primary.

Raiding is when the opposing party crosses over to vote for the weakest opposition candidate.

Obama won 5 out of the 6 open primaries on Super Tuesday.

Anyone who thinks he can win the general election has lost a few cards.

:rofl:

Like I said, 5 out the 6 that he won on Super Tuesday were open.

Look for a win, courtesy of the GOP in Wisconsin.

At the same time there are some who want to vote Obama to bring Hillary down. Hard to say.

She didnt know why because shes not the smartest, But I know why.

:think:

Obama wins the primaries when the Republicans can vote for a Democrat.

1) Paranoid Fantasy involving coordinated effort to vote for weakest general election candidate. THis sort of stuff may happen in small towns and the like, and even there it is dubious at best. The notion that this happens in large elections is the fantasy of online paranoids and other imbeciles, or is their rather laughable way of trying to demoralize primary opponents.

2) Obama has crossover appeal. He wins open primaries because many voters who are not registered Democrats actually want him to be President. Gasp.

Needless to say, #1) (for which there is no proof other than a laughbale "definition" aiming, pathetically, for knowledge) would be BAD, while #2 would be GOOD.

How to choose, how to choose? For #1, you can always get a chuckle by asking the knuckleheads who believe such things to support it with evidence of any kind whatsoever. The evidence they assemble to prove it is the funny part.

:rofl:

Hawaii justifies its write in ban in primary elections as a way to prevent party raiding. Petitioners argue that this alleged interest is suspect because the State created the party raiding problem in the first place by allowing open primaries. I agree.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-0535.ZD.html

That's the best you can do?

I know you're smart, so I know you don't really think that link supports your contention that such voting has been proven in any large election. The decision speaks merely to the argument made by state, as you well know. Keep trying, though! Next time, maybe something empirical would help. Good luck.

posting it.