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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 AM
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Will Obama's big wins, and lead in delegate count draw more supers?
Obama had large wins in 4 states this weekend. Enough to bridge the delegate gap, including superdelegates.

Is now the time the supers will throw their weight behind the new leader and give him a cushion? Or, will they continue to hold back?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:17 AM
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1. I think his leads are going to make it easier for those who've been laying low to endorse
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:18 AM
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2. A bump in super endorsements.
That seems right.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:19 AM
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3. That would seem logical. Hope so.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:21 AM
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4. Clinton still has 98 more superdelegates.
I'd like to see him pull enough to make that number insignificant. Amazingly, he has already made up that ground with pledged delegates.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:30 AM
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5. The Clinton News Network is still putting Hillary in front
They can only keep on that charade until Tuesday.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 AM
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6. Just guessing, but I would think they would wait until after Texas,
Ohio, and Pennsylvania and to find out what, if anything, is going to be done about Florida and Michigan. I'm also guessing from reading that Howard Dean would like this to be over by March or April - that he will put Obama and Clinton in a room, explain to them who the superdelegates are going to choose and let one of them know they have to bow out for the sake of the Democratic Party. That person will have to give a great speech and try to make sure he or she can convince their voters to back TOTALLY the person chosen, not really by a bunch a guys and girls in a backroom but by the preponderance of the voters will.

Unfortunately, I am a Florida voter. Hillary got over 850,000 votes here and Obama got well over 550,000, I believe. Without any campaigning. That's a lot of voters to once again be disenfranchised for something they had nothing to do with. It's a rotten feeling to know that about five times now, including voting again Jeb for governor, that I believe my vote wasn't counted. This time it's not lost in ether, it's lost to broken rules. Rules I didn't break. So even if Florida and Michigan don't end up counting, just remember there were over a million people that voted a certain way that will just be thrown away. Something has to be done about this for fairness alone. The only thing I can think of is to let Florida and Michigan have another primary. Obama is riding the great wave and he might change those counts in those two states and at least another huge chunk of voters won't feel left out.

After that is sorted out, I think the super-delegates should take a look and if Hillary and Obama still can't get over that 2025 mark without them, if they are politicians from a certain area that one or the other won, they should give their vote to the winner. For the SD that are not doing the peoples business in a given area, well, they get to choose whomever they want. And, unfortunately, it's probably a how well can you grease my palm kinda thing. The people will have already spoken, they just didn't speak loud enough for either candidate to beat the other one (at least without Florida, I won't mention Michigan here because Hillary was the only one on the ballot ) What do we do just keep coming up with contest for them to see who can win? I can't imagine The Democratic Party letting them duke it out until June, but if that does happen and there is still no clear winner, I guess the super-delegates are the last resort.

How hard to you think it would be for Hillary to pack it in if she is almost tied or slightly behind Obama in the delegate vote, not counting the sp's and visa versa. They are both too close to back away. The only solution I see for us voters would be to put them on the same ticket. I don't think they would go for that but wouldn't that be one hell of a day? Hillary has wanted to be president most of her life. And not just to be president, but because she wanted to make things happen. She could barely contain herself during Bill's administration and it did get her in trouble. She's learned so much since then.

How could Obama accept a VP nod when he has the most gigantic ground swell of political support most people have ever seen? He is inexperienced. Very. But, I trust him a hundred times more to surround himself with good people than little Georgie boy.

All of this rattling on just to say that I think the super-delegates have all this to think about and more and I don't see any reason for them to make a decision until after Howard Dean has his talk. If he has one. Some of the delegates are pretty committed and aren't going to change their minds. I bet most do. For Obama. If I'm wrong on that, then I don't know why I bother reading and watching all this stuff. :)

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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:38 PM
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7. Wonder if this could still be true? Hillary changing campaign
managers has me thinking something else now.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:39 PM
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8. Certainly.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 02:41 PM by Bornaginhooligan
"Is now the time the supers will throw their weight behind the new leader and give him a cushion? Or, will they continue to hold back?"

I suspect that most will still wait, but the trickle will get larger.

Rep. Gonzalez (D-Tex) just endorsed Obama.
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Freetospeak Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:40 PM
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9. Of course!
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:49 PM
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10. I think they will stop endorsing Clinton, but
I don't they will start instead endorsing Obama in significant numbers until after 3/4 to see if there's a clearer idea where this is going.
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Moh96 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:13 PM
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11. I think its time for them to listen to the real voters
enough already
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