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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:03 AM
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The Australian: "Obama is part politician, part cult"
If you're one of those who is getting sick of Obama's campaign being analyzed in religious terms, close this thread and hide it. If you're not, read on:

Obama's first coming
Washington correspondent Geoff Elliott | February 09, 2008


...Through the media and on the streets people are getting a bit giddy over Obama. In this man they are projecting a new course - one that he says he will lead - where the US buries the culture wars, charts a new course in bipartisan politics and heralds a new dawn for America.

After more than seven years of the Bush administration and when 70 per cent of the populace think America is on the wrong course, there's little wonder that the hunger for something new is real and fertile ground to till for a politician.

But Obama is part politician, part cult. Supporters wearing T-shirts with an Andy Warhol like pop-art image of his face testify to that. But then they - him - were once easy to dismiss until people realised Obama's charisma was being matched by one of the most sophisticated ground operations ever seen. It is one that is outsmarting the Clinton machine. He's marrying inspiration and cult with old-fashioned political grunt.

One would have to have a heart of stone not to be moved by Obama on the stump. It's not so much by what he says but it's the way the crowds respond to his words. When 16,000 people, without prompting, start shouting some of his keynote phrases as he delivers them, you know something special is going on. The atmosphere at his events is such that one wonders if Obama is about to walk out with a basket with some loaves and fishes to feed the thousands. And therein lays the danger for Obama. The Obama shuttle has made it into orbit but at some point he's going to have to land this thing back on Earth... the danger remains for Obama in managing the cult-like fervour. Obviously, he's no messiah and lofty expectations of his supporters is something that Obama is also acutely aware of. In stockmarket parlance, Obama's share price is soaring on expected future earnings. Clinton, 20 years in the public eye, is like the industrial conglomerate: steady share price and reliable dividends. Think of Obama as Google and Clinton as General Electric. The problem for high-flying stocks is that any bad news can cause the share price to drop sharply. So far Obama has played the bad news extraordinarily well. What turned out to be a shock loss in New Hampshire to Clinton last month might have taken the wind out of his sails but in fact it only galvanised his supporters more: they bought more Obama "stock"....

More: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23182456-28737,00.html
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:04 AM
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1. I think this is about the 20th cult thread you've posted
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:05 AM
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2. re-read the first sentence of my OP
I wrote it in very clear English.
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:08 AM
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3. cause if there is anyone who's got their thumb on the pulse of america, it's Australia!
:boring:
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:08 AM
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4. dismissing the rest of the world's opinion is the kind of thing...
...best left to the Republicans.
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:15 AM
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5. I didn't dismiss the rest of the world, I dismissed You dismissing the rest of the world
in favor of Australia's position on Our democratic election
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:16 AM
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6. so does it matter to you that many european countries are hoping for obama...?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:34 AM
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7. Europeans = cultists
Well-known fact. And Europeans have had war all through their history. So their liking for Obama just means they'll fall into line when he declares war on Australia.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:59 AM
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8. How is this article for support of Obama in the "rest of the world"???
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 07:01 AM by 1776Forever
Europeans Agog Over Campaign '08 - and Obama
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
February 05, 2008

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200802/INT20080205a.html

(CNSNews.com) - European interest in the U.S. presidential election campaign may be at unprecedented levels as Super Tuesday arrives, and Democratic candidate Sen. Barack Obama is the evident favorite among media and political commentators.

Across the continent, major foreign-language newspapers are carrying special sections and Web sites dedicated to the campaign.

"There has never been a presidential race quite like this in the history of the United States," declared Michael Tomasky in Britain's liberal Guardian. "It has genuinely impressive candidates. It has a grand theme. It's really, meaningfully, about something."

In the Netherlands, the NRC Handelsblad said there was more interest in Europe in the 2008 primary race than there had been in previous American elections.

Political panelists in several countries, including Romania and Germany, discussed the importance of the election to Europeans, citing issues ranging from Iraq and Afghanistan to climate change and European integration.

Whoever wields power in Washington will make policy that affects the rest of the world and influence the future political direction of Europe, they agreed.

In an opinion piece, the editor of the Dutch-language paper, Juurd Eijsvoogel, said that for many, the choice was between Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton, as the Netherlands --and Europe -- tends to fall instinctively in the Democratic camp.....

"As British and European leaders ponder the meaning and consequences of Mr. Obama's sudden rise, perhaps they should be asking instead how much they really matter to him," it said.

Still, Obama continues to enthrall many Europeans, and some German papers have hailed him as "the new Kennedy."....

The young senator from Illinois had "captivated the world," declared Britain's left-leaning The Independent on Monday, above a 4,650-word extract from Obama's autobiography, "The Audacity of Hope."

In the Netherlands, a poll by the Algemeen Dagblad newspaper found that of the 150 members of the country's House of Representatives, 58 would vote for Obama if they could and 40 for Clinton. Only 23 would vote for a Republican, with no further breakdown given.

And in France, an online poll at the Web site of the left-leaning newsweekly Le Nouvel Observateur gave Obama 61 percent of support to Clinton's 30 percent, with 3,300 votes cast.

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It is NOT a cult it is a MOVEMENT - A Social Movement to Change Washington Politics and its pundits! Get use to it!!!!!!! You can call it anything you want - We (Obama) Can Change Washington - Yes We Can!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:54 AM
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9. Its finally time to ignore your dumb ass.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:59 AM
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10. keep beating that dead horse. shameless.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:00 AM
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11. It certainly does inspire obsession in some, yes. Case in point: Bidenista.
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aein Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:00 AM
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12. Can we please ban this guy? N/T
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:06 AM
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13. Yes, Mr. 200 posts should be the arbiter of that.
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