VA and MD allowing teenagers 17 years old to vote in primary

BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:42 AM
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VA and MD allowing teenagers 17 years old to vote in primary

Since when could someone vote at 17?

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:43 AM
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1. Many states do, so long as you will be 18 on election day.

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Renew Deal

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:43 AM
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3. If you are 18 by the General Election day

You can vote.

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geek tragedy

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:43 AM
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2. If you'll be 18 when the general election occurs, there's

nothing wrong with that.

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alteredstate

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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7. Yep

Some 17 year-olds were able to vote in SC, too.

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Window

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM
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32. Yes, my 17 year-old grandson voted in SC primary.

He will 18 in October.

Peace:thumbsup:

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Unsane

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:43 AM
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4. WA does too.

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UALRBSofL

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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5. Is this something all states are doing?

Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM by UALRBSofL

Is this an individual state directive? What's that all about?

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desi

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:57 AM
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30. I have a 17 yr old who will be voting Hillary

on March 4th. He will be 18 in Aug and will vote for her again in Nov. It's legal...

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calico1

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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6. It's the primary, not the GE.

You can vote in the primary at 17 if you will be 18 on election day. Nothing new.

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Barack_America

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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8. If you're going to be 18 by the general election.

They aren't the only state to do it.

I think it's smart. Encourages participation in the primaries starting with their first election.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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9. Thanks....

never heard of it before.

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countingbluecars

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM
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10. That's a good thing. n/t

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Thrill

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM
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11. Several states have been doing this for a while

But only if you will be 18 by the GE

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM
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12. If you turn 18 before the general, you SHOULD be able to vote in the primary

But then, I'm a wacko. I think the voting age should be the same age that people can be tried as an adult in a given state. Let's be consistent: if we believe people are adults for the purpose of criminal prosecution, then how can we say they're not adults for the purpose of voting?

But that's just me. I like consistency in concepts.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM
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33. Who fucking said it was a bad thing?

Damn you people can read more shit into a question.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:28 AM
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56. Who said you said it was a bad thing?

Not me, so why are you responding to me?

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cali

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:46 AM
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13. Nothing new about it and many other states

have the same rule- if you're 18 by election day in November you can vote in the primary.

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abluelady

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:46 AM
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14. Isn't the Voting Age a Federal Law?

Can States decide?

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:47 AM
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17. Primaries aren't Federal elections

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Submariner

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:47 AM
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15. Since when could someone vote at 17?

Probably since Dumbya has been getting so many of them killed in Iraq.

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Frances

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:47 AM
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16. I think that if someone votes for the first time while

he/she is in high school, then that person may be more likely to vote in subsequent elections.

And I agree that only 17 year olds who will be 18 by the general election should be allowed to vote.

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Pirate Smile

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:48 AM
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18. So did Iowa - if you will be 18 by election day in November then you can caucus.

Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 11:14 AM by Pirate Smile

edit to delete some unnecessary comments.

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CoffeeCat

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:50 AM
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19. Isn't this typical?

If you are old enough to vote on November 4--on election day, you are allowed
to participate in the primaries.

It's been that way for ages in most states.

It makes sense. If you are going to vote in November--because you'll be 18--you
should be able to participate in those primaries.

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nomorewhopper

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:50 AM
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20. must be a hard life if you always smell conspiracy theories everywhere you go

i know what you're thinking

OMYGOD 17 year olds will all vote for obama so we need to stop this now!

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:54 AM
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25. Screw you....

I wasn't thinking it was a conspiracy. I was unaware that a 17 year old could vote in the primary.

You don't know shit.

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tammywammy

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:52 AM
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21. A lot of states do that

As long as you're 18 by the General Election you can vote in the primary. Sounds fair to me.

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blm

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:53 AM
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22. Duh? Since when do so many Democrats not understand how election rules work?

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:55 AM
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27. And screw you, too. n/t

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blm

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 AM
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34. Sorry, but Hill supporters and their EXPERIENCE mantra deserve to be hoisted on their own petards.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM
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36. fuck you. n/t

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:03 AM
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39. You stay classy.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:06 AM
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45. Like you would know.....

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:08 AM
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48. Ah, yes. The double-bird smilie. Truly, there is not a more cutting display of defiance.

I am undone.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:05 AM
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44. That doesn't even make sense...

which isn't too surprising.

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Emit

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:53 AM
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23. Yes, as long as they turn 18 by the GE. n/t

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RL3AO

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:54 AM
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24. Same in Minnesota

as long as you are 18 by November 4.

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BeyondGeography

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:55 AM
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26. Damned kids

they can be sent to Iraq in November and we're supposed to let them vote, too?

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:56 AM
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28. I helped organize petitions and protests back in the

70's to get the 18 year old vote. I just wasn't aware that you could vote in the primary at 17.

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BeyondGeography

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:03 AM
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41. It happens

And good for you. I was in 6th grade back then and we debated this issue in front of 400 kids at a general assembly. Thankfully, I was on the pro-vote side and we won. Two years later, not so fortuante. We had a Mock Congress and I was assigned the role of Bill Archer (R-TX) which gave me license to be mean to Democrats. It was easy, and lots of 8th graders laughed their heads off. An early indicator of the Reagan Revolution and Young Republicans across the nation, now that I think of it...

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RoadRage

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:56 AM
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29. Nebraska allows this as well, as long as you'll be 18 in November on election day. NT

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 AM
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31. JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE, I asked a simple question.

I made no judgment about teenagers voting at 17, I was just unaware of it. Actually, I remember now, but hell it's been a long time since I was 17 and I have no children so haven't paid attention.

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Midlodemocrat

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM
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37. My daughter will vote tomorrow, and like you, I was unaware of it.

She's very excited about casting her first vote.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:04 AM
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43. Now that I stop and think about it I think

I voted in a primary at 17, but that's been a long friggin' time ago. It was the first election where an 18 year old could vote......something I organized petitions for back in the 70's.

Congratulations to your daughter on her first election.

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LostinVA

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:09 AM
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49. Is she voting for Hillary? If so, I have no problem with it

Now let's see how many people will take that seriously.

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Midlodemocrat

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:12 AM
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51. LOL. I know, right?

She's still undecided, like me.

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LostinVA

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:13 AM
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52. I'll give you a box of wine, if you go Hillary

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Midlodemocrat

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:15 AM
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53. No bribing allowed.

Plus, I have three cases of Stimson sitting in the fridge.

:bounce:

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LostinVA

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:16 AM
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54. And yet, your children go hungry

They need more than 3 cases of Stimson and a bucket of mayo from Costco.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:02 AM
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38. Perhaps you should look at your wording. When you get an enormous negative reaction,

it could be that everyone else is insane. It could also be that your wording was provocative. Frankly, with no context, with a challenging 'since when?' statement, and given the history Clinton supporters have had with attacking Obama's youthful support base, it's not surprising that so many took it in a negative light.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:09 AM
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50. It wouldn't have mattered how it was worded for some of you

drooling Obama supporters. It was a simple question. No judgment was made, no conspiracy offered, it was a simple question.

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Occam Bandage

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:23 AM
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55. While I always appreciate being called "drooling," look at the very first reply you got.

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NoPasaran

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM
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35. The Twenty-Sixth Amendment

The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. Congress shall have the power to enforce this law through appropriate legislation.

The XXVI Amendment prohibits states from denying the vote to those 18 and older. It does not prohibit them from allowing younger persons to vote.

Some states allow persons who will be 18 on the General Election Day to vote in primary elections, some do not. It's up to the lawmakers of the states. Likewise, if a state wanted to lower its voting age or seventeen or sixteen it would be allowed.

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BlackVelvet04

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:07 AM
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47. I KNOW 18 IS THE VOTING AGE....

I helped make that happen.

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CK_John

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:03 AM
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40. Only those that can get to the caucus, those in Iraq should be allowed to vote also. n/t

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TheUniverse

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:04 AM
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42. I think 12 year olds should be allowed to vote.

After all 12 year olds can be tried as adults in court, so shouldn't they have the privileges of adults also?

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alcibiades_mystery

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:32 AM
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57. See my post #12

I agree!

States should be consistent in their evaluation of the capacity for adult judgment.

Of course, I only kinda agree. I don't think 12 year-olds should be tried as adults, period. But if you are going to try them as adults, then denying them the franchise makes zero sense.

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karynnj

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:06 AM
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46. It makes sense to allow a vote in the primary to one who can vote in the general election

Some states allow it, some don't.

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ingac70

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:32 AM
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58. If they turn 18 by the GE...

some states allow it. Quit being a hater.

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Ekirh

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Mon Feb-11-08 11:35 AM
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59. I live in VA

And I was clueless to that. Makes sense though.. if your going to be 18 in time for the election, might as well be allowed to get a say in who your party's nominee is going to be.

Ahhh the Primary is tommorrow. Can't wait!

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