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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:31 PM Original message |
Why HRC won't win Ohio |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. those 'dynamics' haven't registered in the polls |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. except people here are already voting with their pocketbooks by giving to Obama over HRC |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. people here? |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Ohio contributions to Obama are outpacing those to HRc's last time I checked, |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. polls polls |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. So Let Me Guess: When She DOES Win, It'll Be Because She Cheated Or Somethin |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Can you spell MESS? It's not going to be pretty, however it turns out |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Two Points |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. The night before the election is going to be a long night? |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. If we are truly forced by our SOS to go back to OCR and paper ballots, |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I should have been more direct, I see. Your primary is on March 4, not March 3. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. yes,--that is the tpical MO of so many Obamababies |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. and you are referring to what? doesn't make sense. |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Do you ever post anything other than drive-by name calling? |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. In WA until the day before when the govenor |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Ohioans have a rich history of being opinionated and stubborn....yes. |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Oh yes we are! |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. And people are talking about that...a lot..how they were much better off during those years |
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Riley133 (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Bingo! That is a prevailing sentiment that I hear n/t |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. They know their politics and politicians and take them seriously |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. Edwards Endorsement will lift Obama to victory in Ohio |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. and if he endorses Hillary???????? eom |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Won't happen |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. do not count on that or underestimate how Obama jerked John EOM |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. did not hear the "story" |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Any truth to the rumor that |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. rescheduled.... |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. For when? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. MSNBC: Obama's Meeting with Edwards is Off---did you get this MEMO? |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yep, because implicating that a young woman is a whore |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Chelsea should be running the campaign as far as I'm concerned; that's why the comment |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Granted, but what does that insult have to do with Obama or his campaign? n/t |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Becoz HRC made a big deal when Obama said he'd rather inter-face |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I saw a lot more of that criticism coming from HRC supporters than Clinton herself... |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Characterizing a no thank you as a rebuke is rather harsh wouldn't you say |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I just think it's a little naive or disingenuous to think that Clinton wouldn't have played it... |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Well, then, I think it's a matter of who I think knows how to make a better use of time |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think Obama could run the table on the states Hillary thinks will save her |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I agree. Obama hasn't campaigned in Ohio or Texas yet and |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. all my cousins and my uncle in TX are going Obama |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. it's nuts for Obama down here |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. With Obama's 100 percent recognition, all bets are off.... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Here's the reality Team Hillary cannot fathom: He wins anywhere he's known well. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. Bashing Gov Strickland AND our new Dem AG & SOS and Stephanie too? |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. He's a good man; it's just not good times for Ohio, and he's struggling |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. As for the AG and SOS, |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. True that |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:40 PM Original message |
Haven't you heard? |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. If you are trying to sway votes one way or the other.... |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Wouldn't venture to think I could sway votes; just time for a wake-up call, that's all. |
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Blue_State_Elitist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
36. What state does like to be told how to vote? |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. true, so goes Ohio, so goes the nation. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. I am from Ohio----do not agree. |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. the dynamics change hourly..... |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
39. Isn't Ohio an open primary state? Doesn't that favor Obama? |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Yep, coz a lot of R's are going to go for Obama; seen too many of our young people |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Sorta...you can vote in the Dem primary |
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Riley133 (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. That's right, and people don't realize it |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Can you elaborate? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. Yep. East Liverpool Toxic Waste Incinerator + New Modifications (inc Anthrax): |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. uh oh. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. Ohio will be competitive, but this is the one state other than California |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. another reason HRC wont win Ohio |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. She is in love with the sound of her own voice. |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I have a more cynical take; |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. When she said she found her voice, it means she found her crying towel |
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geiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. she has a lot to cry about these days..... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It's Hilly's turn to cry, Hilly's turn to cry, Hilly's turn to cry-y-y-y! |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
68. Polling... |
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